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Macjet 04-06-2015 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Fetzervalve (Post 1855831)
Mooneymite,

Great review! Exactly the level of detail and opinion that is helpful to people on these boards. Would love to see comparable reviews of the Phenom and Encore from Netjets pilots - or other XL/S opinions.

The XLS is the biggest POS that I've ever flown. Period. Fortunately for me the nightmare is about to end.

illinipilot 04-07-2015 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by WarEagle1 (Post 1857143)
Hi everyone, I was in the 02/09/15 new hire class and was assigned to the Encore fleet. I'm currently awaiting IOE. Could you shed some light on QOL, mission, etc. For the fleet I'm assigned to? Thanks!

The Encore tends to be a regional aircraft. If you live on the West Coast you tend to stay out West. Anyone living east of DEN will generally spend the week on the East Coast. You will fly anywhere between 3-5 legs per day, 1.7 average leg length and about half of the legs are empty. It is a small fleet so you will soon know most of people in the fleet.

Welcome!

WarEagle1 04-08-2015 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Masterplan (Post 1857149)
So we're the bigger airplanes awarded to the higher seniority in the class or just randomly?

It's random. I was in the first few seniority wise in my class and was assigned to a small aircraft. Remember, pay is the same so who cares. :) I'm just glad to be here.

WarEagle1 04-08-2015 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by illinipilot (Post 1857313)
The Encore tends to be a regional aircraft. If you live on the West Coast you tend to stay out West. Anyone living east of DEN will generally spend the week on the East Coast. You will fly anywhere between 3-5 legs per day, 1.7 average leg length and about half of the legs are empty. It is a small fleet so you will soon know most of people in the fleet.

Welcome!

Thanks Illini, I live in Dallas so Teterboro is going to be my second home it sounds like. Yeah me! Lol!

illinipilot 04-08-2015 07:33 AM

WarEagle,

Yep. Additionally Netjets has been getting pretty good lately about utilizing you on the first and last day. Being in Dallas they shouldn't have too much trouble getting you to or from the airplane so I would probably anticipate flying a leg or two on your first and last day.

IP

Fetzervalve 04-11-2015 05:21 AM

All good replies. Sounds like the XLS and Phenom fleets can be very busy. I saw a few newhires on the list provided got the Sovereign, Hawker and X. Understanding everyone is generally busy, how does life vary on these fleets? How do current pilots on these fleets like the airplane and the flying?

Macjet 04-11-2015 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Fetzervalve (Post 1859881)
All good replies. Sounds like the XLS and Phenom fleets can be very busy. I saw a few newhires on the list provided got the Sovereign, Hawker and X. Understanding everyone is generally busy, how does life vary on these fleets? How do current pilots on these fleets like the airplane and the flying?

I've been in the Sovereign and XL fleets. The Sovereign is a 7 hour airplane with a tiny cockpit and the XL is probably the biggest POS ever built. Both had considerable roles in my decision to leave. That and I hated being a Jack of all trades whipping boy. I hated both of these airplanes with a passion. Cessna should stick with building 172's. 91k is well suited for some but not for me. I genuinely wish those who do hitch their wagons to NJA the best of luck. The new guys should take advantage of the fatigue policy. Too many guys here will run ragged with 12 hours on/10 off. Get your rest and fly safe!

flyguy37 04-11-2015 01:58 PM

Flightaware is a good place to see what kind of flying each fleet does. Even the larger airplanes don't do much longer flights. Pax legs are 2 hourish and repos are an hour or less usually. 2-4 legs a day. 12 hours on/12 hours off is my norm but it varies wildly.

Fetzervalve 04-11-2015 03:18 PM

Good point about Flightaware. Also helpful would be perceived pros/cons of the Sovereign, Hawker and X by pilots who have flown them. Obviously each aircraft has its idiosyncrasies and it would be helpful to newhires to hear opinions early.

I am guessing Macjet was not a fan of the Excel.

flyguy37 04-11-2015 03:45 PM

Don't think MacJet is a fan of life. In his defense the Sovereign is the worst hand flying plane on earth. Great performance but that is it. The Hawker is a better machine. No experience with the X. Change is the name of the game. If you don't like it you won't like NJ.


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