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own nav 06-11-2017 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2377588)
So....even when things get better....few people can just say SOMETHING GOOD JUST HAPPENED.

I'm sure that there are plenty of AMF pilots who look at this as good news. Not necessarily that we all want to work for UPS as a career, but if it means more pilots (translating to a little time off), that's great.

Jetlife 06-11-2017 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2377608)
I'm sure that there are plenty of AMF pilots who look at this as good news. Not necessarily that we all want to work for UPS as a career, but if it means more pilots (translating to a little time off), that's great.

No current AMF pilot can benefit from it, you have to be a UPS intern first.

own nav 06-11-2017 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2377611)
No current AMF pilot can benefit from it, you have to be a UPS intern first.

Right, I get it. Not personally interested in flying for UPS.

Jetlife 06-11-2017 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2377614)
Right, I get it. Not personally interested in flying for UPS.

Nobody who stays at AMF for a long period of time would be.

This agreement in particular is just so comical. It literally doesn't lay out a single timeline requirement or hourly qualification requirement. It should be insulting to anyone with half a brain at the attempt AMF is making to attract unknowing pilots.

own nav 06-11-2017 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2377616)
Nobody who stays at AMF for a long period of time would be.

This agreement in particular is just so comical. It literally doesn't lay out a single timeline requirement or hourly qualification requirement. It should be insulting to anyone with half a brain at the attempt AMF is making to attract unknowing pilots.

UPS wants their freight moved, and is throwing out a bone.

BoilerUP 06-11-2017 06:11 AM

This "agreement in particular" was not promoted by AMF in a public press release, but rather sent to UPS pilots in an internal Chief Pilot Hotline.

This is not a flowthrough, like what AA wholly-owned regionals have.

What it is, however, is a program for college seniors interested in the UPS Airlines co-op/internship and having a career flying for UPS to have a defined path from internship completion to flying a Browntail, while providing UPS more pilots for their feeder operation and AMF more crewmembers to fly their (UPS) revenue.

For perspective though, there's a dozen or less interns each year (unless the program has radically changed).

Jetlife 06-11-2017 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2377631)
This "agreement in particular" was not promoted by AMF in a public press release, but rather sent to UPS pilots in an internal Chief Pilot Hotline.

This is not a flowthrough, like what AA wholly-owned regionals have.

What it is, however, is a program for college seniors interested in the UPS Airlines co-op/internship and having a career flying for UPS to have a defined path from internship completion to flying a Browntail, while providing UPS more pilots for their feeder operation and AMF more crewmembers to fly their (UPS) revenue.

For perspective though, there's a dozen or less interns each year (unless the program has radically changed).

How long do you have to fly at AMF before you are hired back at UPS as a pilot? What qualifications must you meet?

BoilerUP 06-11-2017 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2377632)
How long do you have to fly at AMF before you are hired back at UPS as a pilot? What qualifications must you meet?



I have no idea - OP is verbatim what was sent out in the CPH.

I would suspect meet all published minimums to include the now "preferred" 1000TPIC...but that's just a WAG.

pony172 06-11-2017 02:40 PM

Out of curiosity, how many hours a year does a typical AMF guy fly? Wouldn't it be quicker to CFI and go to a regional for a while? And this helps what, 12 folks a year? I know one of the guys in it an I am happy for him, Lived in our crashpad for a few years while working at ups. I just don't see how this is that great of a deal except for PR purposes.

Jetlife 06-11-2017 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by pony172 (Post 2377863)
Out of curiosity, how many hours a year does a typical AMF guy fly? Wouldn't it be quicker to CFI and go to a regional for a while? And this helps what, 12 folks a year? I know one of the guys in it an I am happy for him, Lived in our crashpad for a few years while working at ups. I just don't see how this is that great of a deal except for PR purposes.

This is a PR move, nothing more.


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