Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3562543)
The only relevant minimums for any job vacancy are the competitive minimums. Those are the numbers from the other appliicants. If the company advertises a minimum of 1200 hours and a high school diploma, and everyone else shows up with 15,000 hours, time in type, and a masters degree, guess what you need to compete?
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Originally Posted by buccirj
(Post 3562558)
yeah I get that. There is always someone with a more attractive resume and qualifications. I got a long way to go.
You'll always have the same thing to overcome, no matter how far you go, or how many decades you do this. Trust me. That doesn't mean that you won't get the job by applying now. The point was that if you're asking why you didn't get a call, because you meet the minimums, then you're asking the wrong question. Apply. In today's environment, those who have higher qualifications to be competitive for other jobs, will be looking for those other jobs; they won't e applying to places that you are presently. Your competition for any given job will often be people who are in roughly the same experience range as you...for the types of jobs for which you'll apply. Just remember that when asking why you don't get called to an interview, there are no guarantees, and meeting the published minimums doesn't mean anything other than you're able to apply. Don't let it sock you in in the gut of deflate your sails if you don't get a call....keep applying, and keep applying everywhere. I see a lot of complaints by those who say they've had a few interviews, and can't understand why they cant' get hired. My response is wait until you've had a hundred interviews, and if you still can't get hired, then check back. A few applicaitons or a few interviews, is nothing...it's not even scratching the surface. Scratch the surface. Scratch it deep. You'll get a call. |
Originally Posted by buccirj
(Post 3562555)
R-ATP means restricted ATP. And I have just over 1250 hours but I see what you mean and I was merely mentioning I met my R-ATP mins of 1250.
If Berry has not called you back, don’t be too upset. Unless you already live in one of their bases (or want to live there), you’re better off looking for a regional still hiring FOs and apply there. |
Originally Posted by QRH Bingo
(Post 3562686)
You missed the point I was attempting to make but thank you for explaining to me what the “R“ stands for.
If Berry has not called you back, don’t be too upset. Unless you already live in one of their bases (or want to live there), you’re better off looking for a regional still hiring FOs and apply there. |
Originally Posted by VanillaAK
(Post 3562040)
Ok. Yeah I read through the whole thread but I asked the question because I didn't fully understand the on-call part. From my perspective, it seemed like in order to be able to show up in to the airport within 30 min, you would need to live close to base and be at home. Like I guess I didn't understand if its 2:00am on a Tuesday and I'm sleeping, I would need to make sure I heard the phone and got decent rest beforehand somehow and still made it to the airplane in time? That's the part that's still fuzzy to me. I guess I understand tracking the aircraft to see the possibility of being called helps and being in group chats but I just haven't worked in that type of environment before and it sounded interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by VanillaAK
(Post 3562040)
Ok. Yeah I read through the whole thread but I asked the question because I didn't fully understand the on-call part. From my perspective, it seemed like in order to be able to show up in to the airport within 30 min, you would need to live close to base and be at home. Like I guess I didn't understand if its 2:00am on a Tuesday and I'm sleeping, I would need to make sure I heard the phone and got decent rest beforehand somehow and still made it to the airplane in time? That's the part that's still fuzzy to me. I guess I understand tracking the aircraft to see the possibility of being called helps and being in group chats but I just haven't worked in that type of environment before and it sounded interesting. Thanks for the info.
It is interesting and good flying, but hard to keep up longer than 2 years. Most get burnt out after just one year. But summertime is typically slow so it's possible to have a little bit of a reset before the winter busy season.
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3563370)
Yeah, this is why 24/7 on call is illegal. You need 10 hours of rest before accepting a duty period.
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Again, being on call 24/7 is not illegal. Rest is required prospectively, and if that's built into the callout, then being on call around is not illegal.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3564128)
Again, being on call 24/7 is not illegal. Rest is required prospectively, and if that's built into the callout, then being on call around is not illegal.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3564128)
Again, being on call 24/7 is not illegal. Rest is required prospectively, and if that's built into the callout, then being on call around is not illegal.
This is specifically addressed here: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/practice_areas/regulations/interpretations/Data/interps/2015/Orellana_2015_Legal_Interpretation.pdf This isn’t 2009. Pilots shouldn’t put up with this crap with literally everyone else hiring. |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3564218)
. . . . This isn’t 2009. Pilots shouldn’t put up with this crap with literally everyone else hiring.
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