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02-21-2026 | 05:47 PM
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I had a chance to check out the Baker maintenance hub in Burlington, NC. There was definitely a sense of purposeful intensity and hustle. Lots of mx guys, everyone working. It was not the picture of the lone one or two maintainers in a dark hangar. The hangar was clean and organized, brightly lit, and more like a clean room than a maintenance facility.
I also tagged along with some recent pilot hires to a new Challenger 300 acquisition. These pilots bring years of knowledge and experience to Baker, along with the enthusiasm you would want in a new hire. Though all the pilots had different personalities, they were all friendly and easy to talk to. All of them were enthusiastic about their futures with Baker, and rightly so. It's a step up from other 135 operators with better pay, benefits, retirement, per diem, etc. The pilots I talked to were all of the same ilk; they would rather be flying than butt-hanging, and the flight-hour pay makes long days worthwhile.
The Challenger 300 we toured is beautiful and in great shape. She smelled and looked brand, spanking new. She was clean inside and out. One of the mx guys came out while the pilots were doing some training, and I observed how much he knew about the nuances of the 300. If you don't have great mx, it doesn't matter how good, experienced, hard-working, or friendly your pilots are. And mx is something Baker has invested in and is doing differently and more effectively.
Lastly, if you want to work for Baker, they are telling the truth about hard work. Don't apply if you aren't ready to bust your tail. It's a weeding out process from the beginning, and I mean from your literal start date. And it makes sense. They have built something different at Baker and want to protect it and perpetuate it for the future. They aren't looking at just a paycheck for today; they are looking at keeping Baker around for years to come. And that only happens when all the employees are in a simultaneous rhythm. In rowing, it's called swing.
P.S. If you are curious about Baker's future, look at their past under Tim Livingston's leadership. Chase's posts outline Tim's goals for the company. And like prophecy fulfilled, Baker delivers.
I also tagged along with some recent pilot hires to a new Challenger 300 acquisition. These pilots bring years of knowledge and experience to Baker, along with the enthusiasm you would want in a new hire. Though all the pilots had different personalities, they were all friendly and easy to talk to. All of them were enthusiastic about their futures with Baker, and rightly so. It's a step up from other 135 operators with better pay, benefits, retirement, per diem, etc. The pilots I talked to were all of the same ilk; they would rather be flying than butt-hanging, and the flight-hour pay makes long days worthwhile.
The Challenger 300 we toured is beautiful and in great shape. She smelled and looked brand, spanking new. She was clean inside and out. One of the mx guys came out while the pilots were doing some training, and I observed how much he knew about the nuances of the 300. If you don't have great mx, it doesn't matter how good, experienced, hard-working, or friendly your pilots are. And mx is something Baker has invested in and is doing differently and more effectively.
Lastly, if you want to work for Baker, they are telling the truth about hard work. Don't apply if you aren't ready to bust your tail. It's a weeding out process from the beginning, and I mean from your literal start date. And it makes sense. They have built something different at Baker and want to protect it and perpetuate it for the future. They aren't looking at just a paycheck for today; they are looking at keeping Baker around for years to come. And that only happens when all the employees are in a simultaneous rhythm. In rowing, it's called swing.
P.S. If you are curious about Baker's future, look at their past under Tim Livingston's leadership. Chase's posts outline Tim's goals for the company. And like prophecy fulfilled, Baker delivers.
02-28-2026 | 04:12 PM
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I had a chance to check out the Baker maintenance hub in Burlington, NC. There was definitely a sense of purposeful intensity and hustle. Lots of mx guys, everyone working. It was not the picture of the lone one or two maintainers in a dark hangar. The hangar was clean and organized, brightly lit, and more like a clean room than a maintenance facility.
I also tagged along with some recent pilot hires to a new Challenger 300 acquisition. These pilots bring years of knowledge and experience to Baker, along with the enthusiasm you would want in a new hire. Though all the pilots had different personalities, they were all friendly and easy to talk to. All of them were enthusiastic about their futures with Baker, and rightly so. It's a step up from other 135 operators with better pay, benefits, retirement, per diem, etc. The pilots I talked to were all of the same ilk; they would rather be flying than butt-hanging, and the flight-hour pay makes long days worthwhile.
The Challenger 300 we toured is beautiful and in great shape. She smelled and looked brand, spanking new. She was clean inside and out. One of the mx guys came out while the pilots were doing some training, and I observed how much he knew about the nuances of the 300. If you don't have great mx, it doesn't matter how good, experienced, hard-working, or friendly your pilots are. And mx is something Baker has invested in and is doing differently and more effectively.
Lastly, if you want to work for Baker, they are telling the truth about hard work. Don't apply if you aren't ready to bust your tail. It's a weeding out process from the beginning, and I mean from your literal start date. And it makes sense. They have built something different at Baker and want to protect it and perpetuate it for the future. They aren't looking at just a paycheck for today; they are looking at keeping Baker around for years to come. And that only happens when all the employees are in a simultaneous rhythm. In rowing, it's called swing.
P.S. If you are curious about Baker's future, look at their past under Tim Livingston's leadership. Chase's posts outline Tim's goals for the company. And like prophecy fulfilled, Baker delivers.
I also tagged along with some recent pilot hires to a new Challenger 300 acquisition. These pilots bring years of knowledge and experience to Baker, along with the enthusiasm you would want in a new hire. Though all the pilots had different personalities, they were all friendly and easy to talk to. All of them were enthusiastic about their futures with Baker, and rightly so. It's a step up from other 135 operators with better pay, benefits, retirement, per diem, etc. The pilots I talked to were all of the same ilk; they would rather be flying than butt-hanging, and the flight-hour pay makes long days worthwhile.
The Challenger 300 we toured is beautiful and in great shape. She smelled and looked brand, spanking new. She was clean inside and out. One of the mx guys came out while the pilots were doing some training, and I observed how much he knew about the nuances of the 300. If you don't have great mx, it doesn't matter how good, experienced, hard-working, or friendly your pilots are. And mx is something Baker has invested in and is doing differently and more effectively.
Lastly, if you want to work for Baker, they are telling the truth about hard work. Don't apply if you aren't ready to bust your tail. It's a weeding out process from the beginning, and I mean from your literal start date. And it makes sense. They have built something different at Baker and want to protect it and perpetuate it for the future. They aren't looking at just a paycheck for today; they are looking at keeping Baker around for years to come. And that only happens when all the employees are in a simultaneous rhythm. In rowing, it's called swing.
P.S. If you are curious about Baker's future, look at their past under Tim Livingston's leadership. Chase's posts outline Tim's goals for the company. And like prophecy fulfilled, Baker delivers.
You are definitely management. No other place have I heard where your CEO calls the pilots dumbasses and idiots in public chats. Facts. Ask a Baker pilot.
03-01-2026 | 05:20 PM
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03-01-2026 | 08:38 PM
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I had a chance to check out the Baker maintenance hub in Burlington, NC. There was definitely a sense of purposeful intensity and hustle. Lots of mx guys, everyone working. It was not the picture of the lone one or two maintainers in a dark hangar. The hangar was clean and organized, brightly lit, and more like a clean room than a maintenance facility.
I also tagged along with some recent pilot hires to a new Challenger 300 acquisition. These pilots bring years of knowledge and experience to Baker, along with the enthusiasm you would want in a new hire. Though all the pilots had different personalities, they were all friendly and easy to talk to. All of them were enthusiastic about their futures with Baker, and rightly so. It's a step up from other 135 operators with better pay, benefits, retirement, per diem, etc. The pilots I talked to were all of the same ilk; they would rather be flying than butt-hanging, and the flight-hour pay makes long days worthwhile.
The Challenger 300 we toured is beautiful and in great shape. She smelled and looked brand, spanking new. She was clean inside and out. One of the mx guys came out while the pilots were doing some training, and I observed how much he knew about the nuances of the 300. If you don't have great mx, it doesn't matter how good, experienced, hard-working, or friendly your pilots are. And mx is something Baker has invested in and is doing differently and more effectively.
Lastly, if you want to work for Baker, they are telling the truth about hard work. Don't apply if you aren't ready to bust your tail. It's a weeding out process from the beginning, and I mean from your literal start date. And it makes sense. They have built something different at Baker and want to protect it and perpetuate it for the future. They aren't looking at just a paycheck for today; they are looking at keeping Baker around for years to come. And that only happens when all the employees are in a simultaneous rhythm. In rowing, it's called swing.
P.S. If you are curious about Baker's future, look at their past under Tim Livingston's leadership. Chase's posts outline Tim's goals for the company. And like prophecy fulfilled, Baker delivers.
I also tagged along with some recent pilot hires to a new Challenger 300 acquisition. These pilots bring years of knowledge and experience to Baker, along with the enthusiasm you would want in a new hire. Though all the pilots had different personalities, they were all friendly and easy to talk to. All of them were enthusiastic about their futures with Baker, and rightly so. It's a step up from other 135 operators with better pay, benefits, retirement, per diem, etc. The pilots I talked to were all of the same ilk; they would rather be flying than butt-hanging, and the flight-hour pay makes long days worthwhile.
The Challenger 300 we toured is beautiful and in great shape. She smelled and looked brand, spanking new. She was clean inside and out. One of the mx guys came out while the pilots were doing some training, and I observed how much he knew about the nuances of the 300. If you don't have great mx, it doesn't matter how good, experienced, hard-working, or friendly your pilots are. And mx is something Baker has invested in and is doing differently and more effectively.
Lastly, if you want to work for Baker, they are telling the truth about hard work. Don't apply if you aren't ready to bust your tail. It's a weeding out process from the beginning, and I mean from your literal start date. And it makes sense. They have built something different at Baker and want to protect it and perpetuate it for the future. They aren't looking at just a paycheck for today; they are looking at keeping Baker around for years to come. And that only happens when all the employees are in a simultaneous rhythm. In rowing, it's called swing.
P.S. If you are curious about Baker's future, look at their past under Tim Livingston's leadership. Chase's posts outline Tim's goals for the company. And like prophecy fulfilled, Baker delivers.
03-02-2026 | 09:27 AM
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So you “heard where” implies this info is not something you personally witnessed but was shared to you by someone else, correct?
Ask a Baker pilot you said
I’m a Baker pilot.
Been there since nearly the beginning of TL purchasing the company from former owners.
Slack is how we communicate. Also email.
We do video conference calls.
Zero times/experiences of such comments.
Has Baker hired and then fired pilots for cause, that includes being DA or an idiot (which caused them to be fired) ? Absolutely.
if you have comm evidence of your comments, then
a. Post it
B Provide source because that has everything to do with the validity of the claim.
Otherwise, zero credibility my friend…not the first time nor the last time a disgruntled employee rips on his old company
03-05-2026 | 12:56 PM
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New Mx hubs for Baker and more
Mx vans and platoons of mx folks are being deployed to SFO, BZN, MDW, IAD,
SDL and another Midwest airport to add to our current mx fleet based in TEB, OPF, VNY, FTW & BUY
BUY is handling interior upgrades along with a paint barn to minimize having to use third parties to do that work.
Mx teams work 7/7 and rotate between cities after getting trained in FTW under the watchful eyes of the great Team Baker Mx experts.
Flying 30 lines this week, more former FJ CL300s coming in the next 6 months, resulting a total of 20 adding to the previous 6 Baker owned.
A few more X’s are popping up on the market as other 135 operators give up on the Xs….as they say’ “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”.
The X’s have been “berry, berry good to Baker”.
if you have a type in either and are a PIC currently flying, please reach out to me via DM or apply on line at Www.baker-aviation.com
More good news brewing but will hold off sharing for now.
If you want to follow Baker aircraft and see what fleets are doing, look on FlightAware for KOW aircraft, Rodeo callsign.
SDL and another Midwest airport to add to our current mx fleet based in TEB, OPF, VNY, FTW & BUY
BUY is handling interior upgrades along with a paint barn to minimize having to use third parties to do that work.
Mx teams work 7/7 and rotate between cities after getting trained in FTW under the watchful eyes of the great Team Baker Mx experts.
Flying 30 lines this week, more former FJ CL300s coming in the next 6 months, resulting a total of 20 adding to the previous 6 Baker owned.
A few more X’s are popping up on the market as other 135 operators give up on the Xs….as they say’ “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”.
The X’s have been “berry, berry good to Baker”.
if you have a type in either and are a PIC currently flying, please reach out to me via DM or apply on line at Www.baker-aviation.com
More good news brewing but will hold off sharing for now.
If you want to follow Baker aircraft and see what fleets are doing, look on FlightAware for KOW aircraft, Rodeo callsign.
03-09-2026 | 04:23 PM
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03-09-2026 | 06:01 PM
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