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03-25-2006, 08:07 AM

twinjockey

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Recurrent Training Contracts

My employer has decided that all of the pilots, about 10 of us, need to sign a contract that obligates us to repay over 12 months the cost of recurrent training. We are a 135 operation. Does anyone know what is normal, if anything, in the industry? We have individual meetings about this on the 27th of March

03-25-2006, 09:08 AM

de727ups

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It's not normal. In fact I'd say it's darned rare. Start looking for another job...

03-25-2006, 09:51 AM

IronWalt

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I would not do it. You guys are being taken for a ride.

03-28-2006, 07:58 AM

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by twinjockey

F*ck 'em. This is not a retention device. The point of this exercise is that they KNOW that nobody is going to pass up a better job because of a training contract, therefore they view this as an opportunity to get a chunk of cash out of EVERYONE when they leave. On average, each departing pilot will pay 50% (6 months worth) of the cost of recurrent. They are basically forcing YOU to pay for the training of your own replacement when you leave...what utter horsesh*t!

If you want to stay, you should be able to refuse to sign the contract, such contracts cannot normally be retroactively forced on existing employees. Check with a lawyer if you want to stay.

03-29-2006, 03:08 PM

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Oh yeah! It goes on. The company is double-dipping. They charge a management fee to the owner who has his or her plane on certificate. That fee usually includes the training costs for crews. Don't do it.