Part 135 pilot jumpseat on Part 121 or Fedex/UPS?
 

Hi everyone, i would like to know if it possible for a Part 135 guy to jumpseat on 121 or other cargo ops. My company does not have jumpseat agreement with anyone i believe.

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When I was flying for one of the "big majors", we allowed pilots from FAR Part 135 carriers to jumpseat with the proper credentials. In a post 9/11 world, I'm certain that you have to be in the CASS system to gain access to a jumpseat with just about anyone. TSA requirements I believe.

Maybe some more enlightened soul can provide the regulation, book, verse, etc. of TSA/FAA scripture but I'd bet a six pack of good German/Czech brew on it.

G'Luck Mate:)

No CASS...No Jumpseat!

I highly doubt that you would be able to get past the ticket counter or the gate agent.... that being said.... I would look down at attempting to jumpseat when as you have said your company doesn't have any agreements with anyone. I did my time with a similar company and was very clearly that if the company found us trying to jumpseat with anyone that our jobs were at stake.
I would recommend just waiting until you work for a company that is CASS and whatnot..... but then again..... I now agree with those who warned you against going to work for your current employer.

Good luck....

B

Lets just say instead of using the term "jumpseat" we called it "non-rev" would that change whether or not we could jumpseat?

I posted this in another thread but here it is again.

I work for a small 135 cargo operator who does not have jumpseat agreements with anyone, however i had heard that some airlines all part 135 pilots to jumpseat.

I did some research and found this document online. keep in mind this is over 7 years old so im not sure if much has changed.

http://www.webnetdesigns.com/aia/jsguide.pdf

here is an excerpt on Jetblue:

Unlimited open cabin seats, and two extra flight attendant jumpseats are offered to all
FAR Part 121 and 135 pilots. Riding the jumpseat is at the captain’s discretion. Noncockpit
jumpseats are offered to all flight attendants. A reciprocal agreement is not
required. Website: JetBlue | Airline Tickets, Flights, and Airfare.

If I'm correct, I would be allowed to jumpseat with JetBlue?
Can someone give me some insight?

Thank You!

I know that Hawaiian Airlines has a open jumpseat policy, only in the back though. I used to catch rides with them all the time when I worked in Hawaii and to the mainland too!

You don't have to be in CASS to catch a ride in the back of the plane only the front. Lot of Captains are pretty cool and will let you on even if you don't have an agreement. The only problem is getting pass the ticket and gate agents.

I work for a small 135 and we can ride in the back on southwest. I haven't tried to see if it works or not though.

Airnet is/was in CASS.

They have reciprocal agreements with a good many companies, but there were a few exceptions like Delta.

AirTran, Southwest, Mesaba, and United were the ones I used primarily. It was a great deal. I rode in the back except for one time riding United to Hawaii. :)

Long story short,
Yes 135 can jumpseat.

Sure, Cape Air is CASS and we're able to jumpseat on just about everyone. Doesn't matter if you're 121 or 135; if you're in CASS and have reciprocal agreements in place, you're able to jumpseat.

It works, dude. I've done it five or six times. But we have an agreement. Southwest does not have "open" 135 rides. Last I read a few places still do...GoJet, believe it or not, commutair, polar/atlas...