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whatthe6789 10-22-2009 02:03 PM

Airnet Recalls...
 
Good buddy of mine just got called by Airnet for a retraining class on Nov. 1. He's been furloughed since last Oct. and said that they are calling them back on a six-month contract. Also, he has the hours to be a PIC now, which might have made a difference... Anyone else get the recall?

detpilot 10-22-2009 03:00 PM

Wow, surprisingly good news!

minitour 10-22-2009 04:22 PM

I haven't bid anything yet on a recall sheet, but they're out there.

-mini

Planewatcher 10-23-2009 08:08 PM

Interesting....

AirbusA320 10-24-2009 08:40 AM

The NEW Economy
 

Originally Posted by whatthe6789 (Post 698863)
Good buddy of mine just got called by Airnet for a retraining class on Nov. 1. He's been furloughed since last Oct. and said that they are calling them back on a six-month contract. Also, he has the hours to be a PIC now, which might have made a difference... Anyone else get the recall?

Six-month contract?
Did they operate that way before?

There's has been articles in business publications about the labor force being forced into temporary positions.

minitour 10-24-2009 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by AirbusA320 (Post 700098)
Six-month contract?

A friend of mine *ahem* told me that it may be *ahem* due to holiday needs.

Wink wink...nudge nudge. ;)

-mini

aggie02 10-24-2009 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by AirbusA320 (Post 700098)
Six-month contract?
Did they operate that way before?

There's has been articles in business publications about the labor force being forced into temporary positions.

I think they mean there is a training contract. Not that the pilot would be a contract employee. The pilot will be a full employee if that is what you were wondering.

minitour 10-24-2009 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by aggie02 (Post 700312)
I think they mean there is a training contract. Not that the pilot would be a contract employee. The pilot will be a full employee if that is what you were wondering.

Nope. Not a training contract.

-mini

aggie02 10-24-2009 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 700329)
Nope. Not a training contract.

-mini

So you are a contract employee? Does airnet pay the taxes? Do you get benefits?

minitour 10-24-2009 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by aggie02 (Post 700453)
So you are a contract employee? Does airnet pay the taxes? Do you get benefits?

I'm just a lowly contract pilot (not for Airnet).

As a contract pilot, I pay my own taxes and get no benefits unless I buy them. What Airnet will do, I don't know.

...and if I did know, I probably wouldn't be allowed to say anything. ;)

-mini

snippercr 10-28-2009 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 700131)
A friend of mine *ahem* told me that it may be *ahem* due to holiday needs.

Wink wink...nudge nudge. ;)

-mini

That's a shame. I've had my eye on Airnet for a couple a years now. Just as I was getting ready to apply was when the company went down hill. Mind you if I DID apply when I wanted to, I would have been furloughed before my class started (terminated really).

Hopefully the Holiday season will jump start them and Airnet will start back up.

freightdog 10-28-2009 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 702493)
That's a shame. I've had my eye on Airnet for a couple a years now. Just as I was getting ready to apply was when the company went down hill. Mind you if I DID apply when I wanted to, I would have been furloughed before my class started (terminated really).

Hopefully the Holiday season will jump start them and Airnet will start back up.

Is Airnet using recalled pilots for the C182's out here in the West? If so, good luck to you guys/gals.

minitour 10-28-2009 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by freightdog (Post 702586)
Is Airnet using recalled pilots for the C182's out here in the West? If so, good luck to you guys/gals.

Are you sure it's a 182 and not a Caravan?

Does it say "AIRNET" real big on the side of it?

-mini

JD1918F 10-28-2009 10:52 AM

There are some new routes out West, Airnet will be flying some in Barons and Flight Express will be flying some in 210's. Those were probably Flight Express airplanes you saw.

FlyingPirate 10-28-2009 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by JD1918F (Post 702656)
There are some new routes out West, Airnet will be flying some in Barons and Flight Express will be flying some in 210's. Those were probably Flight Express airplanes you saw.

Yeah! Don't dis the 210. Even though I'd rather be flying a Baron, the 210 is still an awesome airplane.

minitour 10-28-2009 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate (Post 702699)
Yeah! Don't dis the 210. Even though I'd rather be flying a Baron, the 210 is still an awesome airplane.

It's just missing an engine...

-mini

jsfBoat 10-28-2009 01:58 PM

Does it look like they are going to be hiring after the summer, and hiring guys/gals under 1000 hrs? I'm trying to at least have the Airframe done of my A&P before the hiring starts. I'd like to work for them after my CFI gig.

minitour 10-28-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by jsfBoat (Post 702757)
Does it look like they are going to be hiring after the summer, and hiring guys/gals under 1000 hrs? I'm trying to at least have the Airframe done of my A&P before the hiring starts. I'd like to work for them after my CFI gig.

With the amount of qualified guys out there looking for work (and I mean IFR 135 PIC qualified), I doubt that Airnet will be looking for <1200 any time in the near future.

I guess stranger things have happened though.

-mini

AtlCSIP 10-30-2009 10:37 AM

Airnet App
 
I've had my information in at Airnet for a long time. Over 2100 hours, ATP, 135 qualified in a Baron and a Navajo. Not even an email saying "Thanks, but no thanks", so I'm thinking that around 1000 hours isn't going to get you a job there for awhile unless you know someone on the inside.

freightdog 10-31-2009 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by JD1918F (Post 702656)
There are some new routes out West, Airnet will be flying some in Barons and Flight Express will be flying some in 210's. Those were probably Flight Express airplanes you saw.

The aircraft are not out here yet. We're flyig the runs until airnet gets into place. I was told they outbid us with 182's. Even if they are 210's, whoever is flying them, be safe out there. Bishop and the Owens Valley are not fun places to be at night and in ice.

srgntdvs 10-31-2009 03:46 PM

Do they hire into the caravan and navajo no matter your experience? Or is a SIC in the lear possible?

detpilot 10-31-2009 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by srgntdvs (Post 704378)
Do they hire into the caravan and navajo no matter your experience? Or is a SIC in the lear possible?

from what I understand, WHEN they were hiring, everyone started in the twins or caravan. Although the upgrade was fast at one point...

minitour 11-01-2009 06:53 AM

No one's getting into the lears right now...even the guys that are there.

If you're hired, you'll be in the props for a while. Which prop is dependent on what run you are awarded once you pass your baron checkride.

-mini

srgntdvs 11-01-2009 07:59 PM

That sucks.

minitour 11-01-2009 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by srgntdvs (Post 704857)
That sucks.

Well, it is what it is. Even when hiring was going crazy you were never hired directly into the lear.

-mini

Fly Boy Knight 11-02-2009 11:36 AM

I just got called by BW from AirNet on Halloween asking me for an update on my situation and to tell me about how AirNet is doing. I guess they have started to go to the hiring pool because I have been in their hiring pool since Jan of 08.

I guess hopefully this is a sign that economy is improving or... that they need pilots for peak and the furloughed guys do not wanna come back for a peak contract only.

Either way, I'm gonna call today to talk to him.

srgntdvs 11-02-2009 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Fly Boy Knight (Post 705141)
I just got called by BW from AirNet on Halloween asking me for an update on my situation and to tell me about how AirNet is doing. I guess they have started to go to the hiring pool because I have been in their hiring pool since Jan of 08.

I guess hopefully this is a sign that economy is improving or... that they need pilots for peak and the furloughed guys do not wanna come back for a peak contract only.

Either way, I'm gonna call today to talk to him.

So what you find out??

Boris Badenov 11-03-2009 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by srgntdvs (Post 704857)
That sucks.

You probably wouldn't fit in there. Try a regional.

peterpilot55 11-03-2009 06:03 PM

Bill is still there? I thought he got let go. (or I guess maybe he's been called back). Anyway, make sure you make him feel really important and acknowledge that he pretty much knows it all if you want to get anywhere with him...

BushwickBill 11-04-2009 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by peterpilot55 (Post 705939)
Bill is still there? I thought he got let go. (or I guess maybe he's been called back). Anyway, make sure you make him feel really important and acknowledge that he pretty much knows it all if you want to get anywhere with him...

LOL I interviewed in 07. I've never run so fast from anyplace post interview...

minitour 11-04-2009 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by BushwickBill (Post 706401)
LOL I interviewed in 07. I've never run so fast from anyplace post interview...

I interviewed in 07 also. Ended up with the offer and spent a great year plus there. I did not have BW anywhere near my interview. Perhaps that was part of why I went (happily) to the net.

Great place. Not for everyone.

-mini

srgntdvs 11-04-2009 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Boris Badenov (Post 705755)
You probably wouldn't fit in there. Try a regional.

I beg to differ. I've been there, done that, and wouldn't mind doing it again.

bernouli 11-05-2009 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by peterpilot55 (Post 705939)
Bill is still there? I thought he got let go. (or I guess maybe he's been called back). Anyway, make sure you make him feel really important and acknowledge that he pretty much knows it all if you want to get anywhere with him...

He didn't get let go. He had a pilot seniority number while he was in recruitment. After the furloughs, the obviously didn't need recruiters anymore, so he started flying the line. That ****ed some pilots off, but that's the point of seniority in the first place.

Bill's a good guy. All of the recruiters are. Advice that I can give is to show enthusiasm for the company.

I'm rather surprised that some furloughs are refusing to go back, however. They wouldn't be calling people unless they had new business opportunities, which they do. This "seasonal" new airnet contract is seasonal in a sense, but it seems more of an opportunity for airnet to show a certain customer what they are capable of. I'd bet it will lead to a lot of permanent flying. Granted, I'm purely specuating from a computer chair, but the fact remains; airnet is good at what they do. Their ontime performance will never go unnoticed.

bernouli 11-05-2009 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 706594)
I interviewed in 07 also. Ended up with the offer and spent a great year plus there. I did not have BW anywhere near my interview. Perhaps that was part of why I went (happily) to the net.

Great place. Not for everyone.

-mini

Great place +1

minitour 11-05-2009 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by srgntdvs (Post 706648)
I beg to differ. I've been there, done that, and wouldn't mind doing it again.

If you'd been there, you'd have known they don't hire into the lear. Seems odd.

-mini

minitour 11-05-2009 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 706809)
HThat ****ed some pilots off, but that's the point of seniority in the first place.

The point of seniority is to protect pilots flying the line. Not pilots working in recruiting or records or compliance or sundae making.

That said, Bill is a good guy. While I was disappointed to get "bumped" by him, had I the seniority to do it...I would have done the same thing. He's definitely one of the good guys there. The system worked to his advantage and I think anyone in the same situation would have done the same thing. You can't fault him for that. ****y at the system? Sure. ****y at the person? No way.

I don't know how he conducts interviews or whatnot, because I didn't get to meet him until I had already been hired so I can't speak for that side of things but I can vouch for him as a good genuine person. Lots of the Airnet guys and gals are.

-mini

Scooter2525 11-05-2009 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 706866)
The point of seniority is to protect pilots flying the line. Not pilots working in recruiting or records or compliance or sundae making.

That said, Bill is a good guy. While I was disappointed to get "bumped" by him, had I the seniority to do it...I would have done the same thing. He's definitely one of the good guys there. The system worked to his advantage and I think anyone in the same situation would have done the same thing. You can't fault him for that. ****y at the system? Sure. ****y at the person? No way.

I don't know how he conducts interviews or whatnot, because I didn't get to meet him until I had already been hired so I can't speak for that side of things but I can vouch for him as a good genuine person. Lots of the Airnet guys and gals are.

-mini

He is very passionate about the company. Talked it up like it was the bees knees and having spent some time there, I would say he was accurate (at the time) about the company and where it was going. I couldn't imagine he would have known about the furloughs at the time I interviewed. I can't see why he would quit if there was no recruiting going on and the company isn't going to pay for him to twiddle his thumbs. So... hit the line!

Planewatcher 11-06-2009 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by freightdog (Post 704323)
The aircraft are not out here yet. We're flyig the runs until airnet gets into place. I was told they outbid us with 182's. Even if they are 210's, whoever is flying them, be safe out there. Bishop and the Owens Valley are not fun places to be at night and in ice.

They are covering BIH and VCV in a Baron, They take the long way around staying on a flight plan.

Looks like Flight Express is covering the SBP-BFL run

FlyCMI 11-06-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by BushwickBill (Post 706401)
LOL I interviewed in 07. I've never run so fast from anyplace post interview...


Thank goodness for small favors. It is no secret that AirNet is not for everybody. I'm glad that Craig and BW did and continue to do a good job making sure that the people that do come to AirNet really want to be there. Obviously it wasn't a good fit for you, but to say AirNet is not a good operation is just being ignorant. Good luck with whatever it is your doing now.

As far as the AirNet recalls, that is great news. Having been on furloughed and recalled by my current carrier, I know the feeling when you get that recall letter in the mail. Hopefully with the new business that they are going after, it will provide a little expansion even if it is only in the mighty caravan. (I loved that plane. N107AN still is the sweetest one!)

AVItech746 11-06-2009 04:46 PM

I know they've been hiring alot of call center people.


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