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Airhead 08-01-2006 10:59 AM

How Profitable are Owner/Operators?
 
I'm wondering how profitable owning & operating a small turboprop, jetprop or jet is? I'm a real estate investor who loves to fly and would like to be an owner operator of at least one small VLJ (or maybe a used Citation ISP) and maybe a Cheyenne III for shorter strips. Does anyone have any info, stats or advice? I'd love to hear about specific operating costs associated with different types of planes/jets.

Thanks

GauleyPilot 08-01-2006 11:23 AM

Profits
 
All the owner/operators I know say that aircraft ownership is extremely hard to financially justify. They use the airplane in the business, but it is still quite a bit of a want.

Airhead 08-01-2006 11:36 AM

Sorry, let me be more specific...
 
I would like to fly charters full time. I'm done being a landlord and will be out of the business in about 3-5 years.

Ziggy 08-01-2006 01:13 PM

If I understand you question, your saying you would like to buy an airplane and charter it 100% of the time, and would it be profitable?
I would say no, there's a reason most aircraft that are used for chartering have owners. They are simply trying to defray the costs of ownership. It's a rare case when the chartering company actually owns the aircraft.
One option that you might want to consider if you really want ownership is finding a partner. Although this comes with its own obstacles.

texas_pilot 08-02-2006 05:31 PM

Pt 135 fulltime owner operator
 
As I have heard, those that charter 100% go from point to point picking up and dropping off loads they have bid on, but it is a very competitive business. You have people who are so tight that they sleep in FBO's or their aircraft and only eat stuff they brought with them. You don't get to rest properly and have to stay on the computer all day bidding charters.
Your jets are faster, but somebody ready to go wheels up in 15 min in a Bonanza will way underbid you.
YMMV

tnwhit 08-25-2006 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Airhead (Post 50510)
I would like to fly charters full time. I'm done being a landlord and will be out of the business in about 3-5 years.

I'd suggest that you use your aircraft to help you make more money in real estate investing - 'cuz it's VERY difficult to make a go of it doing charter. :eek:


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