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I'm sorry, I just noticed your post. I hope you did well! I know we are looking for solid decision makers and good attitudes. Best of Luck!
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Originally Posted by flynaz32
(Post 1186794)
RJ, I am new to APC, and i can not send you a PM, but I have an interview with TMC on Tuesday, May 15th. Any hints, tips or advice you could offer would be very much appreciated. Thanks
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I even used the search function and still didn't find this thread.
I'm also a 121 regional guy and I have an interview with this company next month. Looking for the latest gouge. |
When was the last layoff?
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I've got an interview coming up at the end of the month; any tips, advise, regs or HR questions that anyone can throw my way would be greatly appreciated. Fly safe!
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Best gouge is RUN FAST AND FAR!
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Originally Posted by flhtrider
(Post 1234661)
Best gouge is RUN FAST AND FAR!
I've read all 47 of your posts. You don't seem to be able to find happiness anywhere. I wish you all the best. |
RJcursed4life, I sent you a PM.
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Is the only schedule being offered to new-hires the "Reserve" schedule? The website no longer mentions a set 15/13.
Is there anyone on the reserve schedule that can tell me how it really ends up working out for them? Average number of days on and off per month when on the reserve, etc. Thank you. |
The 'reserve' schedule is very similar to 15/13. You start on it then go to 15/13 when a slot becomes available. PM me for more info.
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do they require a type rating in one of their aircraft for employment?
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Originally Posted by RJcursed4life
(Post 1236499)
I've read all 47 of your posts. You don't seem to be able to find happiness anywhere. I wish you all the best.
I'm quite happy....22 yrs at a cargo airline. 12 plus as a captain. I also know a few people that have worked at TMC, none are there now. Good luck to you.... |
Company provides the type. Not required for employment. I'm sure it certainly doesn't hurt to have it, though.
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are they hiring? I'm on the verge of having to start over at the bottom of another regional (mine is chapt 11 and could go chapt 7 over the next several months).
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They have a revolving door at that place,from what I understand they have high attrition rate. I talk to there pilots in FBO's all the time, most are waiting out for something better.
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Originally Posted by dirtysidedown
(Post 1249800)
They have a revolving door at that place,from what I understand they have high attrition rate. I talk to there pilots in FBO's all the time, most are waiting out for something better.
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Originally Posted by drummerguy
(Post 1249613)
are they hiring? I'm on the verge of having to start over at the bottom of another regional (mine is chapt 11 and could go chapt 7 over the next several months).
Hiring for attrition only, which is very minimal. The last growth class just got into sims. If you would like any further information, please PM me. Also, please don't listen to the hearsay and the opinions from those on the outside. I came from a regional and this company is 180 degrees from a regional. |
Originally Posted by RJcursed4life
(Post 1253379)
Actually, attrition is very low.
Originally Posted by RJcursed4life
Hiring for attrition only, which is very minimal.
Looks like you've only been there for about 9 months. Let's see what song you're singing in another year or so. |
Originally Posted by UP Pilot
(Post 1253399)
Do you consider 25-30% pilot turn-over very low? Spring of 2011, the turnover RATE was running close to 60%. At the end of the year it was about 28%. And that's during a year that wasn't known for lot of hiring, but people still found places to go.
Looks like you've only been there for about 9 months. Let's see what song you're singing in another year or so. |
Originally Posted by UP Pilot
(Post 1253399)
Do you consider 25-30% pilot turn-over very low? Spring of 2011, the turnover RATE was running close to 60%. At the end of the year it was about 28%. And that's during a year that wasn't known for lot of hiring, but people still found places to go.
Looks like you've only been there for about 9 months. Let's see what song you're singing in another year or so. If you got out and you didn't like it, good for you. I am happy for you. I am merely trying to provide my perspective with as much factual information as I can. Thanks for you perspective on what things used to be like at TMC. I am sure everyone appreciates your input. And as for a year from now, I plan on becoming independently wealthy, so I am sure my tune will be even better ;-) |
Originally Posted by RJcursed4life
(Post 1254326)
No, I would not consider 25-30% low, but that was over a year ago, and from what I understand it was a time of great turmoil. The guys that stuck it out say it is a very different place from back then. Plus, 28% turnover when you have 23 airplanes is a lot different number than when you have 47 airplanes like TMC has now....it's nowhere near 28%.
If you got out and you didn't like it, good for you. I am happy for you. I am merely trying to provide my perspective with as much factual information as I can. Thanks for you perspective on what things used to be like at TMC. I am sure everyone appreciates your input. And as for a year from now, I plan on becoming independently wealthy, so I am sure my tune will be even better ;-) TMC had a lot more than 23 airplanes in 2011. They picked up several more Hawkers in the last year or so, but that is it. The fleet count isn't that much different. Besides, 28% turnover is high whether you have 1 airplane or 500. The size of the fleet is irrelevant. Yeah, there was a little lull in turnover this past summer but it's has started to pick back up. If and when hiring picks up post-election, TMC is going to be one hurting unit. Even some of their beloved 'company guys' are sick of it and looking. As one of the ones who 'stuck it out', it is not a very different place than it was. In fact, it continues to decline. There have been some operational improvements with the EFBs and such, but that is minor in the grand scheme of things. They still treat all of their employees in a very unprofessional manner. From profanity laden tirades to waiting until late afternoon on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend to announce that the health insurance has changed and, btw, you have until June 1st to submit the paperwork for the new insurance, to maintenance asking a pilot to make an open write-up 'disappear' because they couldn't find anyone on the field to sign it off. A real class act. The gm is good friends with Jim Segrave (straight from the gm's mouth). Do a search for that name and you will see where SW gets his playbook from. Things start to make a little more sense when you look at it in that light. You can't dismiss these kind of turnover numbers as a couple of whiny pilots. There is a reason for it. Pilots considering TMC have to decide whether their situation warrants going to work for them and putting up with the crap for a year or two or just avoiding it all together. By giving them information that is factually incorrect you are doing them a huge disservice. |
Travel Management is a good company. As with all things, attitude is everything. Make it good or make it bad. If you're don't like what you're doing, find something else to do. Resign. But if you agree to continue working for them, then man up and get the job done.
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Originally Posted by UP Pilot
(Post 1254381)
People researching TMC should be given an opportunity to see what it's really about so they can make their own informed decision to work there or not. The problem is your facts are way off and your perspective is a bit muddied.
Well since my perspective is so muddied and my facts are way off, I am glad everyone considering employment with the company has your facts. Good thing that there are guys like you in this industry that keep everyone on the straight and narrow. I just go to work, fly safe with a good attitude on airworthy airplanes. I guess I am screwed. I guess I am also wrong to say that this whole Comair closing thing is a negotiating tactic. :confused: Anyone wanna go grab some beer and watch some football?? |
I am considering applying to TMC cause I am sick of the regional Ive been at for years now. Ive got a Beech 400 and Mitsubishi 400 type rating but Id much rather fly the Hawker 800. Will I get stuck flying the Beechjet because of my type rating or will I have the option? Id appreciate anyones thoughts.
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Originally Posted by UP Pilot
(Post 1254381)
People researching TMC should be given an opportunity to see what it's really about so they can make their own informed decision to work there or not. The problem is your facts are way off and your perspective is a bit muddied.
TMC had a lot more than 23 airplanes in 2011. They picked up several more Hawkers in the last year or so, but that is it. The fleet count isn't that much different. Besides, 28% turnover is high whether you have 1 airplane or 500. The size of the fleet is irrelevant. Yeah, there was a little lull in turnover this past summer but it's has started to pick back up. If and when hiring picks up post-election, TMC is going to be one hurting unit. Even some of their beloved 'company guys' are sick of it and looking. As one of the ones who 'stuck it out', it is not a very different place than it was. In fact, it continues to decline. There have been some operational improvements with the EFBs and such, but that is minor in the grand scheme of things. They still treat all of their employees in a very unprofessional manner. From profanity laden tirades to waiting until late afternoon on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend to announce that the health insurance has changed and, btw, you have until June 1st to submit the paperwork for the new insurance, to maintenance asking a pilot to make an open write-up 'disappear' because they couldn't find anyone on the field to sign it off. A real class act. The gm is good friends with Jim Segrave (straight from the gm's mouth). Do a search for that name and you will see where SW gets his playbook from. Things start to make a little more sense when you look at it in that light. You can't dismiss these kind of turnover numbers as a couple of whiny pilots. There is a reason for it. Pilots considering TMC have to decide whether their situation warrants going to work for them and putting up with the crap for a year or two or just avoiding it all together. By giving them information that is factually incorrect you are doing them a huge disservice. Let the facts be the facts, while you are certainly entitled to your opinion raining down a bunch of false truths is not the right way to go. As a person who has seen TMC go from just a few airplanes to a big operator in 135, I feel I can speak with some idea of what reality is and discount every position you take. What you are spewing is nothing other than the fact that the job doesn't suit you and that's ok you should leave and go elsewhere. The last thing I would want to do is fly with a person who isn't happy. While 2011 was a year of changes, to directly dispute your claim that TMC continues to decline, management has held steady on the changes that were made in 2011, implemented multiple platforms to reduce workload on the line, and It's been proven (living proof) that I am covered by the ASAP program. Still looking for the "decline you are referring to..... Point one discounted Pair up TMC next to DPJ and you see apples and oranges all day long. Not even close, I talk to their pilots off and on during a 15 day rotation and I can sit here and tell you they sing a completely different tune..... Point two in the crapper. In the 5 years I have been here which I assume is longer than you, I have NEVER been asked to make a write up disappear. MX has never challenged my postion on an unairworthy airplane Ridiculous. I think this is you trying to drive up the drama...... Point three.... Swoosh, gone Finally to address turnover, TMC for me is 135 charter not FEDEX. I knew when I took the job I was not going to work 10 days a month and make 200K, maybe that's what you took home from the job offer through dillusion lol. There will always be turnover because it's not for everyone, pilots at spirit or frontier or ASA, if offered a job at ups or FedEx, or delta, etc. would be gone in a second. Turnover is a part of aviation until you get to the top. Most want to get paid more for doing less, who can blame em if they can find it. For me TMC gives me an airworthy airplane, doesn't push me to perform unsafe flights and gives me a pretty fair living and quality of life, and a relatively standardized operation. If that changes I will change the scenery.... until then I'm good. Point four........ Well you get the idea. Good luck in your new job dude, hope it happens quickly for you! |
Any hiring updates? What about that King Air in TEB?
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TMC-Travel Management Company
Originally Posted by UP Pilot
(Post 1254381)
People researching TMC should be given an opportunity to see what it's really about so they can make their own informed decision to work there or not. The problem is your facts are way off and your perspective is a bit muddied.
TMC had a lot more than 23 airplanes in 2011. They picked up several more Hawkers in the last year or so, but that is it. The fleet count isn't that much different. Besides, 28% turnover is high whether you have 1 airplane or 500. The size of the fleet is irrelevant. Yeah, there was a little lull in turnover this past summer but it's has started to pick back up. If and when hiring picks up post-election, TMC is going to be one hurting unit. Even some of their beloved 'company guys' are sick of it and looking. As one of the ones who 'stuck it out', it is not a very different place than it was. In fact, it continues to decline. There have been some operational improvements with the EFBs and such, but that is minor in the grand scheme of things. They still treat all of their employees in a very unprofessional manner. From profanity laden tirades to waiting until late afternoon on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend to announce that the health insurance has changed and, btw, you have until June 1st to submit the paperwork for the new insurance, to maintenance asking a pilot to make an open write-up 'disappear' because they couldn't find anyone on the field to sign it off. A real class act. The gm is good friends with Jim Segrave (straight from the gm's mouth). Do a search for that name and you will see where SW gets his playbook from. Things start to make a little more sense when you look at it in that light. You can't dismiss these kind of turnover numbers as a couple of whiny pilots. There is a reason for it. Pilots considering TMC have to decide whether their situation warrants going to work for them and putting up with the crap for a year or two or just avoiding it all together. By giving them information that is factually incorrect you are doing them a huge disservice. |
TMC Jets or Travel Management Company
Originally Posted by Scrapper11
(Post 1261537)
UP Pilot,
Let the facts be the facts, while you are certainly entitled to your opinion raining down a bunch of false truths is not the right way to go. As a person who has seen TMC go from just a few airplanes to a big operator in 135, I feel I can speak with some idea of what reality is and discount every position you take. What you are spewing is nothing other than the fact that the job doesn't suit you and that's ok you should leave and go elsewhere. The last thing I would want to do is fly with a person who isn't happy. While 2011 was a year of changes, to directly dispute your claim that TMC continues to decline, management has held steady on the changes that were made in 2011, implemented multiple platforms to reduce workload on the line, and It's been proven (living proof) that I am covered by the ASAP program. Still looking for the "decline you are referring to..... Point one discounted Pair up TMC next to DPJ and you see apples and oranges all day long. Not even close, I talk to their pilots off and on during a 15 day rotation and I can sit here and tell you they sing a completely different tune..... Point two in the crapper. In the 5 years I have been here which I assume is longer than you, I have NEVER been asked to make a write up disappear. MX has never challenged my postion on an unairworthy airplane Ridiculous. I think this is you trying to drive up the drama...... Point three.... Swoosh, gone Finally to address turnover, TMC for me is 135 charter not FEDEX. I knew when I took the job I was not going to work 10 days a month and make 200K, maybe that's what you took home from the job offer through dillusion lol. There will always be turnover because it's not for everyone, pilots at spirit or frontier or ASA, if offered a job at ups or FedEx, or delta, etc. would be gone in a second. Turnover is a part of aviation until you get to the top. Most want to get paid more for doing less, who can blame em if they can find it. For me TMC gives me an airworthy airplane, doesn't push me to perform unsafe flights and gives me a pretty fair living and quality of life, and a relatively standardized operation. If that changes I will change the scenery.... until then I'm good. Point four........ Well you get the idea. Good luck in your new job dude, hope it happens quickly for you! |
Can someone please answer, how long are the current upgrade times??
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Originally Posted by RPJ80
(Post 1317552)
Can someone please answer, how long are the current upgrade times??
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy91
(Post 1323772)
Might just be a rumor in the industry, but Flight Options has taken over Sentient Jet flying in the Beechjets... It might be a longtime for upgrades...:)
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Originally Posted by skier17
(Post 1323925)
What does Flight Options have to do with upgrade times at TMC?
Not sure how they do upgrades merit, hours, seniority, etc so who the heck knows? |
Originally Posted by fjetter
(Post 1323937)
While I do not work at TMC my guess would be that if they lost Sentient Jets as a broker client, a large broker firm, then they may be flying less hours and may require staff reductions or stagnation.
Not sure how they do upgrades merit, hours, seniority, etc so who the heck knows? |
Fly guy, I'm curious about your style of writing and your position...
You speak about a topic involving possible furloughs and turmoil for people at this company, yet you end every post with a smiley face. On another note, I've read some of your other posts. In these comments you seem very enthusiastic about putting down this company, yet you indicate that you haven't worked for the organization. So I must humbly ask: what is your angle? |
XOJet and Apollo supposidly teamed up several months back and last rotation more than 50% of the trips I flew were for Apollo. The fact that Options and Sentient are now partnered up doesn't really say too much about business for TMC. We do a lot of extra lift for the fractional companies as well as many charter companies and brokers. I could be wrong but business seems to be just as busy as usual. Our airplanes don't typically fly more than a few legs a day anyways with 1-3 days of time on the ground in some cases between flying days, so looking at N# on Flight aware is not going to paint an accurate picture of what is going on with TMC.
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy91
(Post 1324205)
I also do not work for TMC, but they have done a lot of Sentient Jet flying in the past. I have been looking on FlightAware under their tail numbers usually ending in CT or TM. Flight Options rumor on taking over Sentient Jets flights on Beechjets looks to be true...:)
Marketing agreement. |
Anyone have any current interview info? Sim type and profile? Technical portion? HR portion?
Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Cbusbased
(Post 1346072)
Anyone have any current interview info? Sim type and profile? Technical portion? HR portion?
Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Cbusbased
(Post 1346072)
Anyone have any current interview info? Sim type and profile? Technical portion? HR portion?
Thanks.
Originally Posted by i fly planes
(Post 1346981)
I'm wondering this also. Thanks ahead of time.
Met in the early a.m. at C20 – about a 30 minute drive from the Elkhart area – and was paired with another interviewee for a brief sim period in a ground-based simulator, sort of like a glorified CPT with visuals. Would be a great addition to one's "ultimate man-cave!" Immediately beforehand we both completed a multiple-question test which was straight out of the ATP question bank I seem to recall. The simulator was set up to emulate a straight-wing Citation. We took turns in either seat; the other guy went first. Takeoff from TEB, follow the TEB8, do some basic airwork and get vectored for an ILS back into TEB. On my run I received a V1 cut followed by more of the same. They’re looking at CRM, judgment, flying skills, etc. They expect you back at company headquarters after a break for lunch. They will send one of to a lab for drug screening while the other interviews. The Director of HR and the CP conduct. Basic HR-type questions: tell us about yourself; tell us about a time when…; why TMC; what are your strengths and weaknesses, and so on. They’ll walk you around the campus and introduce you to other key folks. They do attempt to put you at ease and leave you feeling good about coming to work there. I did receive an offer which I chose to decline. For an individual at a certain place in his/her career, it might represent a good choice. It just was not for me. I hope that this is informative. Feel free to PM me with specific questions. |
Thanks for the thorough overview FLSTCI!
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