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aviatorhi 06-09-2014 04:19 PM

Grant Aviation
 
I noticed they're looking for 208 & Navajo drivers, anybody got the latest scoop on what the story is with Grant Air?

I had heard they were having some problems with their bypass mail program and other (possibly concerning) issues. But I'm sure someone has more direct knowledge to share.

flyguy37 06-09-2014 04:59 PM

Heard some paychecks bounced

ASpilot2be 06-09-2014 06:36 PM

I have heard of paychecks bouncing as well. I know we had a couple people come over from Grant. Recently they introduced the GA-8 Airvan. Other than that I dont know what the latest is.

aviatorhi 06-16-2014 08:53 PM

Thanks, was offered an interview but had to pass due to timing and that they are not looking for Navajo pilots anymore (no interest in shlogging along in a 207 or 208 right now).

The bounced checks, though, are (or should be) a definite red flag for anyone considering going there.

ASpilot2be 06-16-2014 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1666097)
Thanks, was offered an interview but had to pass due to timing and that they are not looking for Navajo pilots anymore (no interest in shlogging along in a 207 or 208 right now).

The bounced checks, though, are (or should be) a definite red flag for anyone considering going there.

From what I hear, its probably for the better. Are you looking for a job in Alaska?

aviatorhi 06-16-2014 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 1666104)
From what I hear, its probably for the better. Are you looking for a job in Alaska?

I'm looking for a commuter job that let's me do something better than 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (I'm more into 2 months on 1 month off or something like that). I worked in Alaska before so I know if one looks hard enough it can be found. That being said, if I can pull that off where I'm at I'll stay put.

ASpilot2be 06-16-2014 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1666108)
I'm looking for a commuter job that let's me do something better than 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (I'm more into 2 months on 1 month off or something like that). I worked in Alaska before so I know if one looks hard enough it can be found. That being said, if I can pull that off where I'm at I'll stay put.

Gotcha. I dont know where to go for that. Everybody out here is 2/2. I am three weeks on/one off, and I think I am the last person out here on that schedule.

alaskadrifter 06-19-2014 08:22 PM

I'd be really interested in more current info about Grant. I'm graduating in December and they have a base at PADL where I live.

usmc-sgt 06-20-2014 12:43 AM

If you'd like you can pm me and ill give you my email. Email me your questions and I can get them to one of their relatively senior check airman. It'd be good non judgmental info, he was my stepfather for 12 years.

gnew2 06-30-2014 12:15 PM

Grant is still hiring, looking for C208 pilots. The next ground school is on the 8th of July. Send a resume and cover letter to [email protected]. There will probably be another ground school the first week of August if this one doesn't fill up.

aviatorhi 07-01-2014 06:44 PM

And the pay for the July ground school come around August as well?

BeardedFlyer 07-02-2014 10:38 PM

Anybody have current info on Grant?

They treat their pilots ok?

Their pay checks still bouncing?

Keep up on their maintenance?

Frozen Ronin 07-05-2014 05:32 PM

It's bush operations, you have to do your homework. Know as well that things change from year to year. Good question about maintenance, and the NTSB reports are a good place to reference, as well as adn.com for stories and such. Pay checks for many bush 135 ops can be, um, sporty. Best not to sit on the paycheck too long before hitting the bank. Direct deposit is best. Good luck, and don't assume anything. Always verify.

Those kinds of jobs aren't for everyone. It's something I spent many years doing, from Ketchikan to Barrow and wouldn't trade it for anything. Good thing, I guess. Here it is years later, and I may have to go north to escape a crappy job market down south!

aviatorhi 07-05-2014 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Frozen Ronin (Post 1678223)
Here it is years later, and I may have to go north to escape a crappy job market down south!

Always nice to have the AK experience to fall back on isn't it? 2000 Alaska gets you moved to the front of the line pretty fast.

The bush ops I've been involved with have, however, never bounced a check, and a recent history of that happening is enough for me to say no without looking any further.

I know Yute and Everts are both hiring in the near term. RAVN (or whatever they're calling themselves this week) is hiring as well, as is ACE.

akIPA 07-05-2014 10:07 PM

Bering Air hiring also.

BeardedFlyer 07-06-2014 11:19 PM

I heard ACE had a ground school in June. They already running another one or did I just have misinformation?

Bumper 07-07-2014 10:57 AM

Any word if the July 8 class was filled ? Is there going to be an Aug class ?

aviatorhi 07-07-2014 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by BeardedFlyer (Post 1678932)
I heard ACE had a ground school in June. They already running another one or did I just have misinformation?

They had a post on one of the job boards about a week ago, so might have been a leftover. They're known to hire in spurts though. Someone closer to ANC will need to give a definitive answer.

BeardedFlyer 07-08-2014 05:02 PM

Does Bering Air run rotational schedules like 15/15 or are they a standard 5 days a week type operation?

akIPA 07-08-2014 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by BeardedFlyer (Post 1680087)
Does Bering Air run rotational schedules like 15/15 or are they a standard 5 days a week type operation?

20/10 schedule at Bering.

ak68W 07-09-2014 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by akIPA (Post 1680116)
20/10 schedule at Bering.

unless you wanna live in nome and do full time.

Citation X 07-20-2014 06:08 AM

Bering/Grant pay
 
Can anyone tell me how much a guy can exprct to get paid at these outfits?
Thanks

aviatorhi 07-20-2014 06:55 AM

You're looking at between 300 and 500 per day and the company provides you a crashpad if based in the bush (that is actually a good thing, free housing, easy women, and great area to fish in your spare time). Schedules are most bush outfits are 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

flyguy37 07-20-2014 08:58 AM

[QUOTE=aviatorhi;1687917]You're looking at between 300 and 500 per day and the company provides you a crashpad if based in the bush QUOTE]

Bering Air yes..... Grant maybe not

alaskadrifter 07-20-2014 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=flyguy37;1687988]

Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1687917)
You're looking at between 300 and 500 per day and the company provides you a crashpad if based in the bush QUOTE]

Bering Air yes..... Grant maybe not

For the housing or pay?

akIPA 07-20-2014 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=alaskadrifter;1688313]

Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 1687988)

For the housing or pay?

Both provide housing for commuters.

Panzon 07-20-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1687917)
You're looking at between 300 and 500 per day and the company provides you a crashpad if based in the bush (that is actually a good thing, free housing, easy women, and great area to fish in your spare time). Schedules are most bush outfits are 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

Those are not the pay scales I've observed. $190 - $350/day is what I've seen.

As for "easy women," well, let's just say that you might need to drop your standards a bit. Or a lot.

aviatorhi 07-21-2014 01:10 AM

For Yute it is (or was 5 years ago):

53/hour with a 4 hour/day "guarantee". Looking through my logbook I averaged 6.4 hours/day. Some days were below the 4 hours/day guarantee as well so those added a bit.
Comes out to roughly 340/day, with housing provided and a shared vehicle. The women in Bethel are perfectly acceptable in the looks department. When you get out into the "real" bush or in the Aleutians it starts to go downhill fast.

I know Renfro's pays something around 500+/day (but no housing provided).

Bering and Hageland are somewhere in that 300-500 range as well. Grant has always been low on the pay.

aspilot2be can probably fill you in with more current information as well as what Ryan is paying.

BeardedFlyer 07-24-2014 01:20 PM

Anyone know what's going on with the current dissolution of all the 135 jumpseat agreements on Alaska Airlines? Heard they pulled all agreements with anyone that was not officially in CASS which screwed up commuting for a lot of the 15/15 guys in the bush.

ASpilot2be 07-25-2014 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by BeardedFlyer (Post 1691017)
Anyone know what's going on with the current dissolution of all the 135 jumpseat agreements on Alaska Airlines? Heard they pulled all agreements with anyone that was not officially in CASS which screwed up commuting for a lot of the 15/15 guys in the bush.

Thats the first I have heard of it.

aviatorhi 07-25-2014 08:35 PM

Heard some ex-135 guy was using an ID from a company he hadn't worked at for 5 years (had been getting free rides that entire time).

av8n 07-27-2014 02:17 PM

I worked for them for 5 years, I can tell you everything, most rumors are all true

ak68W 11-15-2014 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1688350)
For Yute it is (or was 5 years ago):

53/hour with a 4 hour/day "guarantee". Looking through my logbook I averaged 6.4 hours/day. Some days were below the 4 hours/day guarantee as well so those added a bit.
Comes out to roughly 340/day, with housing provided and a shared vehicle. The women in Bethel are perfectly acceptable in the looks department. When you get out into the "real" bush or in the Aleutians it starts to go downhill fast.

I know Renfro's pays something around 500+/day (but no housing provided).

Bering and Hageland are somewhere in that 300-500 range as well. Grant has always been low on the pay.

aspilot2be can probably fill you in with more current information as well as what Ryan is paying.


I worked for Renfro it was basically 223/day whether you fly or not. (6k/month plus 700 for housing) Really awesome guy to work for...fun flying.


There were women in bethel???

aviatorhi 11-15-2014 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by ak68W (Post 1764643)
I worked for Renfro it was basically 223/day whether you fly or not. (6k/month plus 700 for housing) Really awesome guy to work for...fun flying.

Is the 223 in the 207s? I thought the Beech was around 500, but might be wrong or going off 2 year old info (or a little of both).


Originally Posted by ak68W (Post 1764643)
There were women in bethel???

Lots, just gotta know where to look.

ak68W 12-07-2014 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1764657)
Is the 223 in the 207s? I thought the Beech was around 500, but might be wrong or going off 2 year old info (or a little of both).



Lots, just gotta know where to look.

That was for whatever you flew, 207, maule, beech, supercub, blah blah lol. i even ferried a 172 from merril out there and we put it on the ticked and started doing the village shuffle with it. After i left, some dood ran the 18 off the runway at pka or some damn place, totaled it i believe. Never ceases to amaze me how many people wreck taildraggers using brakes...sigh..... on a sidenote i heard he bought inlands helios, damn i wish i wasnt married with a kid lol

gnew2 05-11-2015 10:12 AM

Latest news is an across the board pilot pay scale bump, health insurance and 401K coming back. 2 more Navajos just arrived, and a 3rd Airvan showing up next month. Good things are happening at Grant. There was a complete change of management and ownership structure in the past year as well. Ground schools are going on pretty regularly.


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Sambeaux 07-16-2015 11:37 PM

How'd all of this workout? What are your staffing levels looking like?


Originally Posted by gnew2 (Post 1878020)
Latest news is an across the board pilot pay scale bump, health insurance and 401K coming back. 2 more Navajos just arrived, and a 3rd Airvan showing up next month. Good things are happening at Grant. There was a complete change of management and ownership structure in the past year as well. Ground schools are going on pretty regularly.


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gnew2 08-27-2015 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Sambeaux (Post 1931451)
How'd all of this workout? What are your staffing levels looking like?


Pretty good. Hiring is pretty steady. Still short of pilots at the moment. http://www.flygrant.com/GRANT_AVIATI...in_command.pdf


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aviatorhi 03-15-2016 12:36 AM

Any updates on Grant?

mauiflyer 03-15-2016 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 2089179)
Any updates on Grant?

They are hiring now in anticipation of several more aircraft being acquired for the summer (Airvans). I had separate phone interviews with their HR and DO and was told classes are being held each month.


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