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cgtpilot 02-16-2015 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by capnkirk (Post 1826439)
I'll enjoy the tip that comes with it too ;)

You guys are probably the nerds that stroll through the terminal with Flightsafety CREW tags & FLY tags on your cars. Tips are for people who aren't paid enough. I wouldn't brag about your boss giving you a tip for loading his pooch carrier onboard. Clearly he isn't paying you enough.

capnkirk 02-16-2015 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by cgtpilot (Post 1826589)
You guys are probably the nerds that stroll through the terminal with Flightsafety CREW tags & FLY tags on your cars. Tips are for people who aren't paid enough. I wouldn't brag about your boss giving you a tip for loading his pooch carrier onboard. Clearly he isn't paying you enough.

You guys seriously know how to make a mountain out of a molehill: I wasn't aware that the 121 world was so prestigious that it has to be sheltered from all other "inferior" forms of aviation.

I was making a statement in response to all the bashing going on here. I was under the impression that this was a thread regarding KCM... Guess I was wrong

You're right though, I've never seen a bus driver get a tip before.. What are the regionals paying these days? Oh right, they're giving "hiring" and "retention" bonuses to honey dick the pilots into accepting wages that are still sub par. Have fun spending the day on Amazon agonizing over which lanyard you should proudly display through the terminals next.

Anyways, 135 companies are required to do the same background checks/jump through the same hoops as 121 applicants have to. I really don't see the big deal.

Knotcher 02-16-2015 04:44 PM

I wouldn't mind the 135 guys using KCM if they would pick up the check once in a while. What was the last benefit the 135 has negotiated that benefited 120 guys also? Why must ALPA do all the heavy lifting and 135 guys do all the coattail riding?

ASaintBernard 02-16-2015 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by capnkirk (Post 1826575)
My my, is that ever the pot calling the kettle black. Lighten up man, who asparagus peed in your butt?

I was pointing out the fact that you can lose your job flying 135/91 and get another job that makes more the next day. Try that 121. I was taking your side.

Cyborgmudhen 02-16-2015 08:05 PM

This......
Thought so.


Originally Posted by ASaintBernard (Post 1826844)
I was pointing out the fact that you can lose your job flying 135/91 and get another job that makes more the next day. Try that 121. I was taking your side.


capnkirk 02-16-2015 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by ASaintBernard (Post 1826844)
I was pointing out the fact that you can lose your job flying 135/91 and get another job that makes more the next day. Try that 121. I was taking your side.

My mistake, I misinterpreted what you were saying. I apologize for jumping to that conclusion.

Kritchlow 02-16-2015 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by cgtpilot (Post 1826589)
You guys are probably the nerds that stroll through the terminal with Flightsafety CREW tags & FLY tags on your cars. Tips are for people who aren't paid enough. I wouldn't brag about your boss giving you a tip for loading his pooch carrier onboard. Clearly he isn't paying you enough.

This is silly. I believe, but could be wrong, that you are an FO at B6. If that's correct, you are making no where close to what most corporate captains are making. Get off your high horse. I used to be a 135 guy, but now have a job VERY similar to yours. It's like you're trying to brag about something you're not?? Can't quite put my finger on it. Anyway, all in all, well, I won't say what I was going to say about piloting skills of airline guys vs corporate guys. After all, if I don't have anything good to say, I just won't say it. Actually, it seems like you're sort of a troll in this particular thread?? Just sayin.

Kritchlow 02-16-2015 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 1826768)
I wouldn't mind the 135 guys using KCM if they would pick up the check once in a while. What was the last benefit the 135 has negotiated that benefited 120 guys also? Why must ALPA do all the heavy lifting and 135 guys do all the coattail riding?

Ouch... I never worked for netjets, but I give them credit for raising the bar on many fronts. Can't remember exactly what some teamsters regionals have added lately..??

Kritchlow 02-16-2015 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by asaintbernard (Post 1826844)
i was pointing out the fact that you can lose your job flying 135/91 and get another job that makes more the next day. Try that 121. I was taking your side.

+1

...,,

Kritchlow 02-16-2015 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by capnkirk (Post 1826881)
My mistake, I misinterpreted what you were saying. I apologize for jumping to that conclusion.

Classy response!! Nice to see someone admit a mistake and take ownership!!

ArcherDvr 02-17-2015 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by cgtpilot (Post 1824746)
Actually no power trip. Do you think it would be easier for a terrorist to get a job flying for a dirtbag 135 operator or flying a 121 airliner?

Well, with a certain 121 carrier hiring via e-mail, and several other in desperate need of large number of pilots, I'd say yes. We go through the same background checks as you guys, but can be more selective of who we hire.

Hawker Driver 02-17-2015 03:56 AM

PHX didn't have it activated yet at the SW gates, at least when I went through.....

The Plainsman 02-17-2015 04:47 AM

part 91 guy here, have enjoyed the back and forth banter....maybe I am missing something but how is KCM any different than the TSA pre-check trusted traveler program? fingerprints, background check, personal ID number....

SayAlt 02-18-2015 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Monk79 (Post 1820564)
Known Crewmember is now open to all pilots flying for 135s.

Your pardon please, but that's not entirely accurate.


the Known Crewmember® program (KCM) is now available to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots.
There's more...


Are all pilots eligible for the KCM program?
A. No. Only qualified pilots who work for certain TSA-regulated aircraft operators (namely, Twelve Five Standard Security Program, Private Charter Standard Security Program, and Aircraft Operator Standard Security Program operators) are eligible to participate in KCM.

For more info...

FAQ - Known Crewmember

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