Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Part 135
Cape Air scumbag alert!!! >

Cape Air scumbag alert!!!

Search
Notices
Part 135 Part 135 commercial operators

Cape Air scumbag alert!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-18-2016, 12:24 PM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: underemployed
Posts: 190
Default Cape Air scumbag alert!!!

Ok I posted this in the cape air thread but it is worth of its own thread. This is sad and potential applicants need to know the crap they pulled.
Watch out!! Beware!! New hire class starting today they were told no training contract but on day one they are making everyone sign a $30k training contract without any advance notice. They literally waited for everyone to show up to class and then sprung it on them last minute. This is the lowest of the low. People there likely turned down other jobs to go to cape air and burned those bridges. This is on par with those companies hat make you pay for your training. If they would have been honest with these young pilots up front then that would be different but this is the lowest of the low. Cape Air I thought you were a quality company but a stunt like this is messing with people's lives. You should be ashamed. Pathetic.
Chrisw is offline  
Old 04-18-2016, 01:26 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: underemployed
Posts: 190
Default

Also the one year clock doesn't start ticking until after completion of upgrade and is not pro rated.
Chrisw is offline  
Old 04-18-2016, 02:42 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,807
Default

There are soooooo many more options out there. Don't sign it - just leave. You have the leverage in a tight market for pilots... Get your 1500 hours and go fly an E175 for Compass or Skywest or Mesa. Commutair, Envoy, PSA and Piedmont all offer flow-throughs to legacies.
David Puddy is offline  
Old 04-18-2016, 03:22 PM
  #4  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 45
Default

I think that's actually addressed on their FAQ page, which has been there for a while. There is some ambiguity in the words "depending upon your qualifications when hired" for sure, but it's not really a new policy or anything.

https://www.capeair.com/pilotjobs/FAQ.html
FraxAvi8tor is offline  
Old 04-18-2016, 04:17 PM
  #5  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 88
Default

I worked there a couple years ago and they pulled some shady stuff with me as well. I came on as an FO, never signed any contract(training or otherwise) or so much as gave a verbal commitment to Cape Air for how long I would work there. This was my first airline and I found out quickly that working for a place like Cape Air you had better move to your base(in most cases) because it is an absolute nightmare trying to commute back.

I resigned for a regional to be home based before I upgraded to captain at Cape Air and the CP told me I would be marked on my PRIA as a non rehire. Good group of pilots over there but felt that it wasn't a great fit for me personally due to commuting and now I have this on my record. Can't say I'm surprised by your experience
F2m185 is offline  
Old 04-19-2016, 12:01 AM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: L188
Posts: 979
Default

Usually a desperate sign of retention/attraction issues. Surprised as the D.O., I think, is an ex American C.P. Luckily we now have APC to spread the word.

Another infamous company tried this on my class and half of us walked out.
Braniff DC8 is offline  
Old 04-19-2016, 04:59 AM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Luv2Rotate's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,498
Default

Originally Posted by F2m185 View Post
I worked there a couple years ago and they pulled some shady stuff with me as well. I came on as an FO, never signed any contract(training or otherwise) or so much as gave a verbal commitment to Cape Air for how long I would work there. This was my first airline and I found out quickly that working for a place like Cape Air you had better move to your base(in most cases) because it is an absolute nightmare trying to commute back.

I resigned for a regional to be home based before I upgraded to captain at Cape Air and the CP told me I would be marked on my PRIA as a non rehire. Good group of pilots over there but felt that it wasn't a great fit for me personally due to commuting and now I have this on my record. Can't say I'm surprised by your experience
I wouldn't worry too much about the PRIA. Just discuss it in future interviews and explain why you're listed as "non-rehire". At the regional level, when you give your notice and call off a trip either because of commuting, sick or family emergency ect... They mark you as "non- rehire"
Luv2Rotate is offline  
Old 04-19-2016, 06:12 AM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 453
Default

Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
I wouldn't worry too much about the PRIA. Just discuss it in future interviews and explain why you're listed as "non-rehire". At the regional level, when you give your notice and call off a trip either because of commuting, sick or family emergency ect... They mark you as "non- rehire"
There no such box on PRIA paperwork.
mojo6911 is offline  
Old 04-19-2016, 08:25 AM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MD-11Loader's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
Default

One of my friends left Cape Air for Mesa, and he did it the right way. He just crossed 1,500 hours, and they had him slated for an upgrade class. He turned in his two weeks, and then then got an email from the CP saying leave your stuff and get out. RB also said he was being marked as ineligible for re-hire in his PRIA even though his email stated that they expected him to stay a year after obtaining his ATP so that they could recoup their investment in him, yet he never obtained his ATP there, so they didn't live up to their end either.
MD-11Loader is offline  
Old 04-19-2016, 10:25 AM
  #10  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Piper
Posts: 4
Default

What people on here don't realize is that when a first officer is hired, they sign a commitment letter that they will stay at Cape Air for one year after their upgrade. Cape Air has no need for FO's except to be considered as a captain in training. Your friend was paid to build flight time and bailed on the company. Your friend and many like him screwed the company. As a result, Cape Air will do its best to weed out the people that have no intention of upgrading.
starfire245 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
winglet
Regional
47
05-15-2016 09:45 PM
Flameout
Military
32
03-05-2010 12:21 PM
ATCsaidDoWhat
Regional
8
01-19-2010 02:24 PM
NinerKilo
Part 135
9
01-14-2010 07:46 AM
JPilot77
Regional
10
11-06-2006 09:08 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices