Originally Posted by Elmo17 (Post 2455843)

Lots of mx issues. Illegal mx in at least one case. I could go on and on about the mx issues and in one case a pilot almost died.
A contract that is totally stacked against the pilots.
An unreasonable, to the letter of the contract, chief pilot who would fly anything in any condition into any weather, therefore you should too, and you will be pressured too.
Penny wise, dollar foolish....but, at the pilot’s expense, of course.

There really is so much more. But I don’t feel like writing a book tonight.

All I’m trying to say is that they should be a last resort, not a first choice.

Check out Landcare.

Originally Posted by Elmo17 (Post 2455830)

are you serious?

Originally Posted by Elmo17 (Post 2455843)

Lots of mx issues. Illegal mx in at least one case. I could go on and on about the mx issues and in one case a pilot almost died.
A contract that is totally stacked against the pilots.
An unreasonable, to the letter of the contract, chief pilot who would fly anything in any condition into any weather, therefore you should too, and you will be pressured too.
Penny wise, dollar foolish....but, at the pilot’s expense, of course.

There really is so much more. But I don’t feel like writing a book tonight.

All I’m trying to say is that they should be a last resort, not a first choice.

Check out Landcare.

Originally Posted by BravoPapa (Post 2455866)

You know, not everybody knows everything about every business out there. :)

Originally Posted by Gasfiltered (Post 2455981)

I think you forgot the most important one, Air America doesn't employ pilots, they contract them. You are an independent contractor; they will send you a 1099 at the end of the year and you will be responsible to pay all the extra self-employment taxes as well as losing on the other legal protections provided to employees.

Originally Posted by BravoPapa (Post 2455865)

What about just training? They have a good rate on the multiengine. Even their Arrow.

Originally Posted by OuterMarker (Post 2456017)

It's been a few years, but it was a place to get your ATP knocked out quick and cheap. Two days and $1200, plus ($700 :eek:) for the DPE, probably $1000 by now? By the way, the DPE I got was no Santa Claus. The ground portion was over 2 hours. He covered every aircraft system in detail, plus performance calculation. And he was just as demanding during the ride.

But I guess no one gets their ATP like that anymore, now that the ATP rules have changed? Judging from what I read on these forums, most get it at a Regional these days?

Originally Posted by Elmo17 (Post 2455989)

I know, I was just being sarcastic. I assumed that thier reputation preceeded them.

All know about their training is that it is affordable. I think it’s pretty cheap, actually. A lot of us Riddle guys used them.

Originally Posted by BravoPapa (Post 2456213)

Why would you Riddle guys be using them when that's what Riddle is for?

Originally Posted by Elmo17 (Post 2456465)

Because you cant just rent a riddle plane and take it wherever, whenever, and its hard to schedule lessons; too many students per instructor.