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hc0fitted 10-31-2010 10:18 AM

Low Time private Cirrus sr20/22 pilot
 
Hello everyone I am brand new to APC forums.... I wanted to make this thread to see if there is anyone out there that knows of any opportunities at all for a low time pilot gig in flying a Cirrus for a private owner or such any lead would be awesome thanks !!!


I have 450TT
295 PIC in Cirrus SR-20 (200 of that is Dual Given)


If there is any additional information i need to disclose let me know !!

Cubdriver 10-31-2010 12:15 PM

Welcome to APC. Please open only one thread at a time on a subject. I am leaving only this thread open, as you are a low-time pilot and this is the right forum for low time pilots to discuss things related to that. I am fairly low time too, so nothing personal.

hc0fitted 10-31-2010 01:25 PM

sorry about that i was unaware no hard feelings buddy

mmaviator 10-31-2010 05:09 PM

there is a charter outfit in CA that does Cirrus stuff.....not sure if that is what your looking for but it could lead to something.

hc0fitted 10-31-2010 06:38 PM

thanks man would you happen to know the name of the company i will look into it

2StgTurbine 10-31-2010 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by hc0fitted (Post 893971)
thanks man would you happen to know the name of the company i will look into it

OpenAir Charters is a Cirrus charter company on the east coast and Texas.

hc0fitted 11-01-2010 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 894025)
OpenAir Charters is a Cirrus charter company on the east coast and Texas.

Thanks Man i checked them out but it seems like they want at least 1200TT

Cruz5350 11-01-2010 05:23 AM

Your going to need 1200TT for pretty much any charter outfit.

Diver Driver 11-01-2010 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by hc0fitted (Post 894129)
Thanks Man i checked them out but it seems like they want at least 1200TT

135 IFR is going to want 135 IFR mins. You'll probably be hard pressed to find a charter, 135 or corp job with your times. Insurance will probably want a lot more experience, especially if you're flying for a private owner (1,500TT, 500 in type is usually a good number to shoot for).

Best advice, keep instructing, fly skydivers or tow banners on the weekends, etc. Just do whatever you can to get your time up. The first 1,500 hours is always the hardest to get.

It's not a Cirrus position, but Pacific Wings flies Caravans under several names across the country for EAS contracts in addition to the Hawaii flying. Might be able to get on right seat or something with about 500TT.

hc0fitted 11-01-2010 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 894132)
Your going to need 1200TT for pretty much any charter outfit.

Ya I know I wasnt really looking for something 135 I am looking for something 91 private some rich guy who wants a pilot to fly his cirrus around I was just giving it a try I realize its a very slim chance... Im just going to keep on instructing I will be eligible to do my MEI in a couple of months at my flight school that is really what I am looking forward to

JPilot23 11-01-2010 09:08 AM

The best chance you have of finding a rich guy who wants you to fly his cirrus around is keep flying the cirrus. Cirrus owners talk and your name might come up if one of your clients really enjoys flying with you. If you stay around cirrus long enough, good things will happen. Good Luck.

Dufur2003 11-02-2010 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by JPilot23 (Post 894240)
The best chance you have of finding a rich guy who wants you to fly his cirrus around is keep flying the cirrus. Cirrus owners talk and your name might come up if one of your clients really enjoys flying with you. If you stay around cirrus long enough, good things will happen. Good Luck.


This is sooooooooooooo true. I am a Piper Lance/Saratoga driver and have a little over 500 in type and I get calls from people all around the United States wanting me to ferry there aircraft or give them instruction in it. The aviation industry is a very very small world, if someone likes you, they will tell their friends. So keep your head up and keep flying that Cirrus because as much as I hate to say it, it really is the future of gereral aviation.

TonyWilliams 11-02-2010 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Dufur2003 (Post 894680)
keep flying that Cirrus because as much as I hate to say it, it really is the future of gereral aviation.


Why do you "hate to say it"?

Dufur2003 11-02-2010 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 894709)
Why do you "hate to say it"?



I would rather not say, so as not to get the thread off topic.

hc0fitted 11-02-2010 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Dufur2003 (Post 894680)
This is sooooooooooooo true. I am a Piper Lance/Saratoga driver and have a little over 500 in type and I get calls from people all around the United States wanting me to ferry there aircraft or give them instruction in it. The aviation industry is a very very small world, if someone likes you, they will tell their friends. So keep your head up and keep flying that Cirrus because as much as I hate to say it, it really is the future of gereral aviation.

thanks guys for all the advice unfortunately all my "clients" are contract chinese students from Air China so i don't see that happening im just going to keep instructing and get my time and move on to 121 why i was just hoping ah ha ....

CFItillIdie 11-02-2010 01:05 PM

If you are really looking into the Cirrus market, get your CSIP (Cirrus Standardized Instructor Pilot) training. It is not cheap by any means, but it opens some doors to flying them. I got my CSIP because a student of mine bought one and he put me in the factory training at KDLH. It was great networking for me, and I have had a good amount of networking opportunities because of it. It is a very small community so maybe join COPA (Cirrus Owners and Pilot Association) to start. It is a paid subscription but only about 35 bucks for a CFI. Check it out and put your name out there. Just to give you an idea the insurance companies are going to want you to be a CSIP most of the time to instruct in them...its just how they are these days. Guys teach in them all the time w/o a CSIP however....just the honor system I guess. But like I said, buyer beware! For those of you guys who went to those fancy flight schools w/ SR20's and 22's, you should have more than enough SR time to qualify for the insurance, but to be a CSIP you have to have 500 hrs TT. Good luck!

featheredprop 11-02-2010 03:11 PM

I cannot understand why people here keep promoting a place like pacific wings ??? I think doing such is a great disservice to fellow pilots ...

Cubdriver 11-02-2010 03:41 PM

Here are some older threads about Pacific Wings and Georgia Skies.

PW 1
PW 2

hc0fitted 11-02-2010 03:48 PM

thanks man for that info I actually don't think im that dedicated to becoming a CSIP my flight school is a Cirrus Training Center.... I was juts being ***** looking for something more on the side besides instructing but thanks for the info buddy

Cubdriver 11-02-2010 03:53 PM

I have a couple of CSIP pals and neither has worked using that cert since early 2009. Both were on staff at Cirrus during better times and both had outside clients, and not many of them. There is simply not much work doing Cirrus training now, and Cirrus itself usually recruits from UND whenever there is a spot for a new person on the training staff. Getting a CSIP is a waste of money until things improve. The only way I would consider it is if I had a job already secured as a Part 135 air taxi driver using SR22s, and they wanted it as part of the hiring deal. In that case the company should pay for it.

Cal Varnson 11-02-2010 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 894139)
135 IFR is going to want 135 IFR mins. You'll probably be hard pressed to find a charter, 135 or corp job with your times. Insurance will probably want a lot more experience, especially if you're flying for a private owner (1,500TT, 500 in type is usually a good number to shoot for).

Best advice, keep instructing, fly skydivers or tow banners on the weekends, etc. Just do whatever you can to get your time up. The first 1,500 hours is always the hardest to get.

It's not a Cirrus position, but Pacific Wings flies Caravans under several names across the country for EAS contracts in addition to the Hawaii flying. Might be able to get on right seat or something with about 500TT.

I got hired flying a Cirrus for a rich guy at 800TT. Insurance has remained at about 7K per year. The insurance company didn't seem to squeal too much, at least not this one.

featheredprop 11-02-2010 05:22 PM

a few more

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/pa...-airlines.html

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/pa...fic-wings.html

AtlCSIP 11-03-2010 04:18 PM

I saw an ad for a Cirrus pilot a couple of times. The guy is out of Ohio. I think I saw it on a pilot job website, but it could have been a more general one.

I have quite a bit of Cirrus time, and have flown many different owners under their open pilot clause. Most require a minimum of 750 hours total time and 100 to 200 hours in type for an SR22. SR20s are usually less time. You can get named for a fee, and many owners don't mind doing that if they need a pilot. They pay the fee. Keep networking and something will come up.

Where are you located? Are you looking for an instructor position, or just pilot?

hc0fitted 11-03-2010 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 895582)
I saw an ad for a Cirrus pilot a couple of times. The guy is out of Ohio. I think I saw it on a pilot job website, but it could have been a more general one.

I have quite a bit of Cirrus time, and have flown many different owners under their open pilot clause. Most require a minimum of 750 hours total time and 100 to 200 hours in type for an SR22. SR20s are usually less time. You can get named for a fee, and many owners don't mind doing that if they need a pilot. They pay the fee. Keep networking and something will come up.

Where are you located? Are you looking for an instructor position, or just pilot?

I am currently in Orlando and I just wanted a pilot position im already instructing in the cirrus right now

AtlCSIP 11-04-2010 06:50 PM

Ok. There is a place in Atlanta out of KPDK that supplies pilots for Cirrus owners, etc... I am not sure what there minimums are. When you can pm, send me one and I will send you their name. I think you need 25 posts to pm.

MoonFallsDown 12-01-2010 10:24 AM

there is this SR22 Air taxi out in the the New York area looking for Pilots but 1200 Minimum required :(
but, check your PM, I have a contact number for you, hope they can help you.

hc0fitted 12-01-2010 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by MoonFallsDown (Post 909649)
there is this SR22 Air taxi out in the the New York area looking for Pilots but 1200 Minimum required :(
but, check your PM, I have a contact number for you, hope they can help you.

thanks man alot i checked out your pm and took a look at the website and ya on the website their asking for 2000TT 1000 dual given the only thing i have they want is more than 200 hours in the cirrus but i could just give them a call it cant hurt i guess thanks again man


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