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123494 10-19-2017 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Plop (Post 2450557)
Thanks everyone.

How about QOL for any commuters from anywhere with a family at home?

Schedules are mostly 4 on/ 2 off. While most trips are commutable, this doesn稚 leave too much time at home. Add the stress of making it on a flight to get to work and you値l soon realize living in base is the best option.

viper548 10-19-2017 04:18 PM

I would try using a different airline on that route if possible.. Southwest, Spirit. Hub to hub is tough but there should be fewer commuters between those cities than there have been the past few years. Most of the AA pilots have had the opportunity to get DFW if they want it.

jonnyjetprop 10-19-2017 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by 123494 (Post 2450574)
Schedules are mostly 4 on/ 2 off. While most trips are commutable, this doesn稚 leave too much time at home. Add the stress of making it on a flight to get to work and you値l soon realize living in base is the best option.

What he said

flyviper 10-19-2017 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Plop (Post 2450557)
Thanks everyone.

How about QOL for any commuters from anywhere with a family at home?

Your quality of life will definitely take a hit if you decide with pdt, but the flip side is your career progression has lot more potential than going to Mesa. You really have to decide whats more important to you and your family. Good luck.

Jersdawg 10-19-2017 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by MantisToboggan (Post 2450169)
Looking on the travel planner, there are 9 flights a day between DFW-PHL. All of them are in an airbus (for now), so you'd have the benefit of two jumpseats.

I can't speak from personal experience, as I don't commute myself. However, I truly believe you should choose a regional based largely off of how to get to your end goal fastest. If you want to be at AA in ~5 years, Piedmont is far and away your best option. Commuting to PHL will be kind of a pain in the short term, but if it gets you home based in DFW at AA, you'll have it made. I'm sure you've considered all this, but it pains me to see people go to a crappy regional so they have an easy commute for the short term. I play the long game

This is bad advice for many. Could be good advice for some. A bad commute is hell on someone's personal life, and amplified if they have a family. Play the long game all you want, if you're willing to lose all that you've invested in. Including your kids. I'm not being dramatic, either. Anyone who's been in the business a few years or more knows plenty of divorced pilots. Commuting is usually the number one culprit.

Plop 10-19-2017 06:58 PM

Thanks all, family takes priority here

Daytripper13 10-19-2017 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by MantisToboggan (Post 2450169)
Looking on the travel planner, there are 9 flights a day between DFW-PHL. All of them are in an airbus (for now), so you'd have the benefit of two jumpseats.

I can't speak from personal experience, as I don't commute myself. However, I truly believe you should choose a regional based largely off of how to get to your end goal fastest. If you want to be at AA in ~5 years, Piedmont is far and away your best option. Commuting to PHL will be kind of a pain in the short term, but if it gets you home based in DFW at AA, you'll have it made. I'm sure you've considered all this, but it pains me to see people go to a crappy regional so they have an easy commute for the short term. I play the long game

It pains you to see people go to a "crappy regional" so they can live in base and drive to work?

Otterbox 10-19-2017 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Plop (Post 2450549)
Thank you all for information. I know the downside of the commute. I just want to believe it's possible. Forget Dallas, how are your QOL with the family commuting from anywhere? I have a class date at Mesa for DFW if I want it but we all know their deal. Envoy is just not looking promising, I received a rejection email off my app.

Thanks again

Interesting about Envoy- recently Piedmont has been the most selective of the WO thanks to the 5 months supply of folks waiting to start indoc.

I do not recommend going to Mesa, however your first year at Piedmont should be relatively easy (lots of backups in training right now so you値l get to spend most of your first 6-8 months at home with pay). Once you start flying the line you値l get a feel for life at the company. If you decide that you池e better off with Envoy you can re-apply as someone with prior 121 experience.

PDTFlyer 10-19-2017 09:04 PM

I agree with Mantis. I have three kids and bride. I went from self employed to gone a lot. It has been quite the change but I知 now upgrading and with the increase in airframes and pilots I知 very hopeful and optimistic our schedules will improve. We are also going to be entering a limited negotiation on some of our contract items, so that should help improve QOL. I would not go to Mesa, short term pain for long term gain. I have a family and I came here because I think PDT has the best chances for long term career progression.

AirJ8 10-19-2017 11:19 PM

Update ?
 
Hey DFW dudes, how goes the commute? I'll be joining y'all shortly. Anybody have any intel on the new hire training pools? Is there a current Pilot backlog waiting for Sims? I wondering how long it'll take from day 1 to being a line Pilot. Thx


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