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MKUltra 10-26-2017 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2454453)
So you are saying are inefficient scheduled are turning people off?!? Wow, someone should let management know. 😂

Call your PDT recruiter and please let them know your choosing MESA over piedmont because of the piedmont schedules... if you did that you will have about 400 brand new best friends.

PDTFlyer 10-26-2017 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by MKUltra (Post 2454645)
Call your PDT recruiter and please let them know your choosing MESA over piedmont because of the piedmont schedules... if you did that you will have about 400 brand new best friends.

I’m not going to MESA but I agree with your idea!!

Pedro4President 10-26-2017 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2454684)
I’m not going to MESA but I agree with your idea!!

I think he meant that to the OP. Plop I think.

Otterbox 10-26-2017 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Plop (Post 2453177)
Did you ever find out why Envoy said NO? Check ride failures? Skeletons in the closet? Lack of experience in the past year?

No failures or busted rides. Currently in non flying job but obtained currency, IPC and glass cockpit experience to show proficiency.

I reached out to the head honcho to inquire and ask for advice in order to be more competitive/marketable in the future. No response.

I am going to Mesa, as I said family is first for me. Several of the negatives there will hopefully not be a factor for me because of the support I have at home. Also, as it was pointed out, everyone is hiring so if it doesn't work out I can keep applying and my resume will have a bit more to display, an ATP, a type and previous 121 time.

I know what everyone says about Mesa, I am positive person-I can handle it. My wife cannot handle me living in PHL or being home for 30 hours every 4 days.

Thanks to everyone, I guess I will go join the Mesa forum now, lol[/QUOTE]



Originally Posted by MKUltra (Post 2454645)
Call your PDT recruiter and please let them know your choosing MESA over piedmont because of the piedmont schedules... if you did that you will have about 400 brand new best friends.

^This. Recruiters usually track this kind of stuff and pass that info around at HQ.

MKUltra 10-26-2017 08:22 AM

I can't imagine what the current talent acquisition cost is for pilots right now. PDT has a large recruiting staff right now, a cadet program, RTP program, plus initial bonus program. Many road shows by recruiters, college visits and such. I can imagine each new acquisition is well over 100k, ofcourse none of us are privy to those numbers. Ofcourse there is a talent lifecycle number that they are spreading over 5 years to spread the number out to justify the number.

To put that in perspective, senior manager in a business, director level 150k yearly salary with 100k yearly bonus is approximately 100k. Talent lifecycle is approximately 3 to 5 years.

To spend that money to lose quality candidates to MESA or others due to our terrible schedules has to burn management's bum.

PDTFlyer 10-26-2017 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by MKUltra (Post 2454773)
I can't imagine what the current talent acquisition cost is for pilots right now. PDT has a large recruiting staff right now, a cadet program, RTP program, plus initial bonus program. Many road shows by recruiters, college visits and such. I can imagine each new acquisition is well over 100k, ofcourse none of us are privy to those numbers. Ofcourse there is a talent lifecycle number that they are spreading over 5 years to spread the number out to justify the number.



To put that in perspective, senior manager in a business, director level 150k yearly salary with 100k yearly bonus is approximately 100k. Talent lifecycle is approximately 3 to 5 years.

To spend that money to lose quality candidates to MESA or others due to our terrible schedules has to burn management's bum.

But it’s American’s fault we have such crap schedules. Management said so!! Lol

MKUltra 10-26-2017 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2455030)
But it’s American’s fault we have such crap schedules. Management said so!! Lol

I have a bridge, a liberty statue and a snake oil I can sell you!!

Funny i talked with a 145 crew the other day that did 2 legs with with 44 minutes of block.. efficiency tell you!


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