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Originally Posted by Phoenix21
(Post 2744736)
Thus the whole reason management wants PBS.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2744706)
Why not get that pairing optimizer now?
This is an antiquated little airline that's understaffed across the board. To make matters worse, there a lot of people in positions they shouldn't be in (including the union). Either they've been around since the company flew the Short 330 and have no place in a modern airline, or they're brand new and underqualified, because that's all the company can attract. (You can hardly talk to scheduling, dispatchers, or payroll without talking to someone new, and possibly still in training.) It's like working for a diner that's been around for 60 years, covered in moldy wood panels, that still hasn't figured out how to accept credit cards. The owner shaves a little off of everyone's paycheck, and if you call him on it, it takes a couple months till he finally pays you. The shift manager still works there because he can't keep a job anywhere else. He has to get a ride to work because he's gotten too many DUIs. The owner thinks it's a privilege to earn minimum wage. He's quick to tell you he paid people far less 60 years ago, and they were happy to have it. Because "kids these days are so entitled", he can't keep wait staff around. Instead, the ones that are there have to cover all the open shifts, negotiating with the owner for how much they want paid to do it. If he doesn't like their offer, he'll make each of them stay four hours past their shift anyways. The business's administrative support consists of a revolving door of the owner's high-school nieces and nephews, and the owner's Aunt Gertrude, whose only qualification is that she was a bookkeeper for three years during the roaring 20s. Expecting management to, on their own, recognize the need for an improvement to technology, perform a realistic cost/benefit analysis, actually pick the best solution and not get fleeced by technology salesmen, and implement that technology? Well, that's asking alot from the nursing home residents that keep this place going. Any viable push for improvements comes from big daddy AA, the labor groups demanding it, or only recently, maybe some experience drawn from Lyle's background. In the off-chance that one of those three parties did motivate the flight department to improve pairings, they probably decided to include that in the PBS conversation, to avoid two separate roll-outs, and so they can look at overhauling these two processes (pairing and bidding) as a whole. |
Petey, you are the man. Thank you
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Wow Petey hit the nail on the head.
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Originally Posted by PeteyT
(Post 2744771)
I don't know if or how long you've worked here, so let me describe the situation:
This is an antiquated little airline that's understaffed across the board. To make matters worse, there a lot of people in positions they shouldn't be in (including the union). Either they've been around since the company flew the Short 330 and have no place in a modern airline, or they're brand new and underqualified, because that's all the company can attract. (You can hardly talk to scheduling, dispatchers, or payroll without talking to someone new, and possibly still in training.) It's like working for a diner that's been around for 60 years, covered in moldy wood panels, that still hasn't figured out how to accept credit cards. The owner shaves a little off of everyone's paycheck, and if you call him on it, it takes a couple months till he finally pays you. The shift manager still works there because he can't keep a job anywhere else. He has to get a ride to work because he's gotten too many DUIs. The owner thinks it's a privilege to earn minimum wage. He's quick to tell you he paid people far less 60 years ago, and they were happy to have it. Because "kids these days are so entitled", he can't keep wait staff around. Instead, the ones that are there have to cover all the open shifts, negotiating with the owner for how much they want paid to do it. If he doesn't like their offer, he'll make each of them stay four hours past their shift anyways. The business's administrative support consists of a revolving door of the owner's high-school nieces and nephews, and the owner's Aunt Gertrude, whose only qualification is that she was a bookkeeper for three years during the roaring 20s. Expecting management to, on their own, recognize the need for an improvement to technology, perform a realistic cost/benefit analysis, actually pick the best solution and not get fleeced by technology salesmen, and implement that technology? Well, that's asking alot from the nursing home residents that keep this place going. Any viable push for improvements comes from big daddy AA, the labor groups demanding it, or only recently, maybe some experience drawn from Lyle's background. In the off-chance that one of those three parties did motivate the flight department to improve pairings, they probably decided to include that in the PBS conversation, to avoid two separate roll-outs, and so they can look at overhauling these two processes (pairing and bidding) as a whole. |
Originally Posted by PeteyT
(Post 2744771)
I don't know if or how long you've worked here, so let me describe the situation:
This is an antiquated little airline that's understaffed across the board. To make matters worse, there a lot of people in positions they shouldn't be in (including the union). Either they've been around since the company flew the Short 330 and have no place in a modern airline, or they're brand new and underqualified, because that's all the company can attract. (You can hardly talk to scheduling, dispatchers, or payroll without talking to someone new, and possibly still in training.) It's like working for a diner that's been around for 60 years, covered in moldy wood panels, that still hasn't figured out how to accept credit cards. The owner shaves a little off of everyone's paycheck, and if you call him on it, it takes a couple months till he finally pays you. The shift manager still works there because he can't keep a job anywhere else. He has to get a ride to work because he's gotten too many DUIs. The owner thinks it's a privilege to earn minimum wage. He's quick to tell you he paid people far less 60 years ago, and they were happy to have it. Because "kids these days are so entitled", he can't keep wait staff around. Instead, the ones that are there have to cover all the open shifts, negotiating with the owner for how much they want paid to do it. If he doesn't like their offer, he'll make each of them stay four hours past their shift anyways. The business's administrative support consists of a revolving door of the owner's high-school nieces and nephews, and the owner's Aunt Gertrude, whose only qualification is that she was a bookkeeper for three years during the roaring 20s. Expecting management to, on their own, recognize the need for an improvement to technology, perform a realistic cost/benefit analysis, actually pick the best solution and not get fleeced by technology salesmen, and implement that technology? Well, that's asking alot from the nursing home residents that keep this place going. Any viable push for improvements comes from big daddy AA, the labor groups demanding it, or only recently, maybe some experience drawn from Lyle's background. In the off-chance that one of those three parties did motivate the flight department to improve pairings, they probably decided to include that in the PBS conversation, to avoid two separate roll-outs, and so they can look at overhauling these two processes (pairing and bidding) as a whole. |
This just in... Rumor has it Aunt Gertrude ****ed up the shift schedule again.
For those on the outside looking in: The union just notified the pilot group that the company needs to retract all of the February bid awards for all of the company's FOs (after the preliminary award was published) and start the bid over again, due to company error. Par for the course. |
They will fix it just like they did our paychecks....within 30 days of the error.
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Originally Posted by PeteyT
(Post 2744771)
I don't know if or how long you've worked here, so let me describe the situation:
This is an antiquated little airline that's understaffed across the board. To make matters worse, there a lot of people in positions they shouldn't be in (including the union). Either they've been around since the company flew the Short 330 and have no place in a modern airline, or they're brand new and underqualified, because that's all the company can attract. (You can hardly talk to scheduling, dispatchers, or payroll without talking to someone new, and possibly still in training.) It's like working for a diner that's been around for 60 years, covered in moldy wood panels, that still hasn't figured out how to accept credit cards. The owner shaves a little off of everyone's paycheck, and if you call him on it, it takes a couple months till he finally pays you. The shift manager still works there because he can't keep a job anywhere else. He has to get a ride to work because he's gotten too many DUIs. The owner thinks it's a privilege to earn minimum wage. He's quick to tell you he paid people far less 60 years ago, and they were happy to have it. Because "kids these days are so entitled", he can't keep wait staff around. Instead, the ones that are there have to cover all the open shifts, negotiating with the owner for how much they want paid to do it. If he doesn't like their offer, he'll make each of them stay four hours past their shift anyways. The business's administrative support consists of a revolving door of the owner's high-school nieces and nephews, and the owner's Aunt Gertrude, whose only qualification is that she was a bookkeeper for three years during the roaring 20s. Expecting management to, on their own, recognize the need for an improvement to technology, perform a realistic cost/benefit analysis, actually pick the best solution and not get fleeced by technology salesmen, and implement that technology? Well, that's asking alot from the nursing home residents that keep this place going. Any viable push for improvements comes from big daddy AA, the labor groups demanding it, or only recently, maybe some experience drawn from Lyle's background. In the off-chance that one of those three parties did motivate the flight department to improve pairings, they probably decided to include that in the PBS conversation, to avoid two separate roll-outs, and so they can look at overhauling these two processes (pairing and bidding) as a whole. |
Originally Posted by 4thgenaviator
(Post 2745127)
I like the allegory. Question, though: what’s the solution? Does the diner continue to operate status quo with ****ed off employees? Or does it slowly attempt to implement technological upgrades and catch up to the rest of modern society?
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