Reserve time and rules for new hire FO
 

I am considering PDT and wanted to see if I could get some feedback on current Reserve time for new hire FO's and the prospect of new hire basing in CLT?

Living at Domicile is my priority so reserve time and rules are important to me. Can someone please provide a brief summary of current reserve times, possibly at CLT, and the reserve rules?

Thanks!

Stop there, about-face, run away.

Hey man, glad you're here asking questions. Take some time and read what pilots have to say about this place. It is god awful.

Worst pay, worst schedules, worst quality of life. The flow is 8-10 years, I could care less what some recruiter is pulling out of their... hat.

We are hemorrhaging FOs for a reason: There are many, many other places out there that can provide you with a livable salary, good schedule, and won't treat you like a moldy dog turd.


I assume you want to work where you live so you can spend more time at home by not commuting. PDT will not allow you to be home as much as a high quality west coast regional with a six hour commute in the day before. I'm not pulling your chain. You would get more days off going that route.

Agreed. Do not come here whatever you do. There are sooo many other choices. Training, schedules, pay, and management all suck. Just go somewhere else. Don’t consider this place please.

Currently reserve is less than a month because Piedmont is so short on FOs it stopped Captain Upgrades... no way to tell what reserve will look like 12 months from your Indoc class date (it takes 10-12 months to complete OE for new hires).

Reserve rules? Not a whole lot- they own you for 16? hours a day. 90 minute call out.

If your an FO go elsewhere. If you live in CLT look at PSA maybe or anyone that has an easy one leg commute.

Odds are you will get philly out of training and be stuck waiting to get clt for quite a while. In order for you to get clt people will have to leave/upgrade or growth will have to happen and you’ll have about 50 people in line ahead of you. Reserve is short. I was on reserve for several months but I think that’s longer than average. The fact we attracted 6 new hires last month should tell you something when envoy/psa (who’s pilots complain about contract, pay, and qol)both seem to be filling classes. Good luck in your search but I wouldn’t recommend PDT until a laundry list of items are addressed.

Aaaand... he gone! 😂

Can't predict the future, but there are a couple of things to keep in mind.

It's the June/July 2018 new hires that are hitting the line now, in March of 2019.

There are something like 125 first officers in training. If we don't get additional airplanes, we'll be very healthily staffed by mid/late 2019, which means a larger reserve pool, and more time spent on reserves before holding a line.

Assuming things stay the same, anyone hired today is stuck behind a relatively large group of brand new FOs. What's true today for reserve FOs (hired in Summer 2018), is very likely to not be true when today's new hires hit the line.

Unless things change (we see more airplanes and growth, again), anyone hired today has a real possibility of being stuck at very low seniority for quite some time. They'll be at the worst place you can be, the tail-end of a big hiring wave, at an airline that's no longer growing.

It's worse than what you thought it was eh?