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32LTangoTen 01-29-2013 06:34 AM

PSA/Piedmont/Eagle: What if...
 
If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like? What airline is considered senior now to the other and which is junior? Or do you think they'd just keep the lists like expressjet and ASA has: separate?

CheckPower 01-29-2013 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by 32LTangoTen (Post 1341514)
If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like? What airline is considered senior now to the other and which is junior? Or do you think they'd just keep the lists like expressjet and ASA has: separate?


ALPA written merger seniority list integration method is not strictly DOH. I believe there are four criteria they use.

DOH, Longevity, career expectations (eg. upgrade vs. furlough) and relative seniority. It also seems that if you are sent to mediation for an ISL; attitude, reasonability, and fairness are also considered (ie. dont be a tool and try to staple the other carrier, it's seemingly frowned upon.)

BoilerUP 01-29-2013 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by 32LTangoTen (Post 1341514)
If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like?

A menage a trois of pain.

rickair7777 01-29-2013 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by 32LTangoTen (Post 1341514)
If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like? What airline is considered senior now to the other and which is junior? Or do you think they'd just keep the lists like expressjet and ASA has: separate?

AMR is spinning off eagle as we speak.

I can't imagine any way that the incidental acquisition of piedmont and PSA would change that.

Well, they might roll PDT/PSA into AE at the time of sale to get rid of them too.

RJ Pilot 01-29-2013 07:28 AM

Spinning Eagle is off the table. It was a gimmick.

skyxbomb 01-29-2013 07:31 AM

Like colgan, mesaba and pinnacle, we will share that same fate. I really hope it won't happen.

What 01-29-2013 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1341563)
AMR is spinning off eagle as we speak.

And how may you know this Mr. Prime Minister?

samballs 01-29-2013 07:35 AM

Well thankfully jc lawson is not the MEC chair of either, as he would levi his group in bk a merger fund

bradeku1008 01-29-2013 07:36 AM

Hope we don't merge the wholey owned airlines.. but thats just me.

bailee atr 01-29-2013 07:45 AM

AE scope does not allow for multiple wholly own carriers on separate certificates.


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