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Old 01-29-2013, 06:34 AM
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If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like? What airline is considered senior now to the other and which is junior? Or do you think they'd just keep the lists like expressjet and ASA has: separate?
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If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like? What airline is considered senior now to the other and which is junior? Or do you think they'd just keep the lists like expressjet and ASA has: separate?

ALPA written merger seniority list integration method is not strictly DOH. I believe there are four criteria they use.

DOH, Longevity, career expectations (eg. upgrade vs. furlough) and relative seniority. It also seems that if you are sent to mediation for an ISL; attitude, reasonability, and fairness are also considered (ie. dont be a tool and try to staple the other carrier, it's seemingly frowned upon.)
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If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like?
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If AA merges with US Airways. What if they decide to merge PSA, Piedmont, and Eagle. All three are wholly owned by their respective Legacy Major carrier. All three are ALPA represented pilot groups with an ALPA written merger seniority list integration method. (which I think is strictly DOH?)

What would this list look like? What airline is considered senior now to the other and which is junior? Or do you think they'd just keep the lists like expressjet and ASA has: separate?
AMR is spinning off eagle as we speak.

I can't imagine any way that the incidental acquisition of piedmont and PSA would change that.

Well, they might roll PDT/PSA into AE at the time of sale to get rid of them too.
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Like colgan, mesaba and pinnacle, we will share that same fate. I really hope it won't happen.
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AMR is spinning off eagle as we speak.
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Well thankfully jc lawson is not the MEC chair of either, as he would levi his group in bk a merger fund
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Hope we don't merge the wholey owned airlines.. but thats just me.
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AE scope does not allow for multiple wholly own carriers on separate certificates.
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I'm sure a merger like that would cost $$$, the parent airline usually just spins them off and usues them as outsourced labor. This is cheaper.
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