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Go-Jetter denies Piedmont guy a seat.
Talking to a buddy at Piedmont the other day, he is sitting in the back of a BloJet RJ trying to catch a ride home, the Capt comes back says he'd like to see him in the jet way, bring your things. This was an empty seat on the airplane mind you, not the jump seat.
Proceeds to tell him cannot have a ride, he doesn't like US Air guys. He was denied a Jumpseat in the Cockpit of a US Air flight and now he won't carry any US air guys. From what I have seen the mainline guys barely no who the RJ guys even are, chances are the seat was taken and thats why he got bumped. Either way I say they walk, and yes I am a Mesa pilot who would never/ever denied a seat to a guy trying to get to or from work and if my captain wanted to I'd take issue with him over it. GoJet, GoRent a car. Merry Christmas! I don't care if that offends anyone, thats what I celebrate so be Merry about it for me. |
Hey you have a Merry Christmas too!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feels good to say that.
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These guys are such cry babies. When I was at Trans States, I remember hearing a story that during class (both gojet and TSA share the same building) TSA guys apparently gave gojet guys dirty looks. After the gojet guys cried to their management, the VP of flt ops from TSA came down and btched out the TSA guys. These guys just don't get it.
Best part is, they wonder why they aren't liked? Instead of giving someone good to say about them on this forum, as if anyone would do that, they pull this crap and send a guy home. Biggest goons in the industry, or close to it anyways! |
Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
(Post 93917)
Talking to a buddy at Piedmont the other day, he is sitting in the back of a BloJet RJ trying to catch a ride home, the Capt comes back says he'd like to see him in the jet way, bring your things. This was an empty seat on the airplane mind you, not the jump seat.
Proceeds to tell him cannot have a ride, he doesn't like US Air guys. He was denied a Jumpseat in the Cockpit of a US Air flight and now he won't carry any US air guys. From what I have seen the mainline guys barely no who the RJ guys even are, chances are the seat was taken and thats why he got bumped. Either way I say they walk, and yes I am a Mesa pilot who would never/ever denied a seat to a guy trying to get to or from work and if my captain wanted to I'd take issue with him over it. GoJet, GoRent a car. Merry Christmas! I don't care if that offends anyone, thats what I celebrate so be Merry about it for me. And MESA really needs to keep their mouth shut |
Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
(Post 93917)
Talking to a buddy at Piedmont the other day, he is sitting in the back of a BloJet RJ trying to catch a ride home, the Capt comes back says he'd like to see him in the jet way, bring your things. This was an empty seat on the airplane mind you, not the jump seat.
Proceeds to tell him cannot have a ride, he doesn't like US Air guys. He was denied a Jumpseat in the Cockpit of a US Air flight and now he won't carry any US air guys. From what I have seen the mainline guys barely no who the RJ guys even are, chances are the seat was taken and thats why he got bumped. Either way I say they walk, and yes I am a Mesa pilot who would never/ever denied a seat to a guy trying to get to or from work and if my captain wanted to I'd take issue with him over it. GoJet, GoRent a car. Merry Christmas! I don't care if that offends anyone, thats what I celebrate so be Merry about it for me. |
I have also heard stories of GoJetters denying rides. Its not the correct approach if they want to eventually gain some type of respect in the industry. Plus, it makes life hell on their commuters, as if it isn't already, if the word gets around. Most guys could care less who rides and who doesn't, but if one of these non caring guys gets denied one day....another gojet hater is born.
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I want to be careful how I word this, I am not trying to compare mesa with GJ, but it is not a secret that a lot of people don't like mesa. So what does mesa do? They welcome jumpseaters. You never hear of anyone getting denied by a Mesa crew. I have to ride them alot and they are always the most friendly and welcoming crews I run into. I have never heard anything other than, "Welcome aboard, glad to have you, make yourself at home." Maybe GJ needs to take a lesson from them, and try to build some respect (however little it may be) wherever they can. I can't believe GJ pilots would do this and only make it harder for their fellow pilots than it already may be.
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Originally Posted by magnum_man
(Post 93931)
Caught in another lie.....we are not cass, we couldn't even get through the gate agent to ask for a ride in the cockpit. Next time...think of a better lie.
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Uhmmmm, magnum_man, and pilotara, am I missing something?
It SPECIFICALLY says in the post the rider was in the BACK, not the "Jumpseat". |
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 93939)
Uhmmmm, magnum_man, and pilotara, am I missing something?
It SPECIFICALLY says in the post the rider was in the BACK, not the "Jumpseat". :D |
I feel for the Mesa guys so bad...You're all excellent people and mgt handles you like foster kids. Its dispicable. Please push for a better contract...
Not to mention their 250 hr CRJ FOs...even more rediculous. |
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 93939)
Uhmmmm, magnum_man, and pilotara, am I missing something?
It SPECIFICALLY says in the post the rider was in the BACK, not the "Jumpseat". |
As much as it sucks that someone didn't get a ride to work, I smile every time GoJets denies another pilot, because all they are doing is creating even more animosity toward themselves. One of these days, they'll deny a guy that's going to interview them at a major.
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In defense of Mesa, they have been nothing but courteous and professional when I have ridden their planes. I know they have a bad rep, but it is not entirely the pilots' fault that they have a malevolent dictator for a boss.
I ask Mesa for rides all the time, but I would never ask GJ for a ride because I would never given them a ride. Check the tail number before you walk down that jetway. Oh, and the mainline guys very often know exactly what is going on with GJ. Some don't, but most do. |
I've jumpseated with MESA before... they treated me very well. I don't like the company, but they're people whoe want a better contract none the less. I'm sure theyll stick MESA in the next contract negotiations.
Originally Posted by magnum_man
(Post 93931)
Caught in another lie.....we are not cass, we couldn't even get through the gate agent to ask for a ride in the cockpit. Next time...think of a better lie.
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You know it just hit me, I've got a buddy at TSA... he's a awsome guy. I'm sure he'd standup for a wrongfully bumped jumpseater as any of us would.
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Thanks for the heads up about the denial. I'll send this info to Piedmont's union and some other facets. A Go-f'-yourself-jet pilot will never see the interior of a Dash again. What a bunch of idiots.
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Might be prudent for the denied pilot to contact PDT's Jumpseat Coordinator instead of starting a jumpseat war over some anonymous post on an internet forum.
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Educate me, what could the Jumpseat Coordinator accomplish?
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They could at least find out who the pilot was, get a statement, then fax a letter with a big FU on it.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 94182)
Might be prudent for the denied pilot to contact PDT's Jumpseat Coordinator instead of starting a jumpseat war over some anonymous post on an internet forum.
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
(Post 94215)
Educate me, what could the Jumpseat Coordinator accomplish?
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Originally Posted by pilotara
(Post 93925)
No CASS no cockpit ride. Merry Christmas to every one
And MESA really needs to keep their mouth shut |
Originally Posted by magnum_man
(Post 93931)
Caught in another lie.....we are not cass, we couldn't even get through the gate agent to ask for a ride in the cockpit. Next time...think of a better lie.
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 93939)
Uhmmmm, magnum_man, and pilotara, am I missing something?
It SPECIFICALLY says in the post the rider was in the BACK, not the "Jumpseat". |
A GoJetter ignore facts!?!? Unheard of! Someone alert the press!:eek:
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He was denied a Jumpseat in the Cockpit of a US Air flight and now he won't carry any US air guys.
Still Grounded....here you say that the GoJet guy was denied a jumpseat in the cockpit.....how you going to lie your way out of this one??? We cant even get through the gate agent because we are non CASS. |
There is no jumpseat wars on behalf of GoJet....we let everyone in the back including 135 guys. Don't assume that some guys saying a friend of his was put off a GoJet flight, means it happend. You can hate us for whatever you like but you will always get a ride home or to work if you like.
Magnum Man |
Someone's jealous because someone else had a friend
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 94372)
Someone's jealous because someone else had a friend
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If the story is even true....Grow up!
So anybody can deny a GoJet pilot, but a GoJet pilot cannot do the same. You boys are a bunch of cry babies... If you start a jumpseat war, be prepared for the consequences... |
Originally Posted by magnum_man
(Post 94362)
There is no jumpseat wars on behalf of GoJet....we let everyone in the back including 135 guys. Don't assume that some guys saying a friend of his was put off a GoJet flight, means it happend. You can hate us for whatever you like but you will always get a ride home or to work if you like.
Magnum Man Have to call you on this one again, I have personally watched GoJet crews deny mainline United drivers no less than 3 times. Once I was standing at the end of the A concourse in STL waiting for my EMB145 at the next gate over, and a very upset United captain who had just gotten back from one of your CRJ's asked me what the hell their (the pilots) problem was. I simply told him, welcome to Hulasland. Once again magnum man, and this goes for the other GJ guys on this site, you cannot speak for all of colleagues. Perhaps rightfully so, there are bitter pilots up and down your seniority list because they have been denied many times. I'm 100% confident that at least some of them are denying pilots on a regular basis. And I think finally you and I have something we can agree on, I'm sure you'll admit that at least SOME of them are doing it, and that this story isn't all that far fetched. |
I jumped GoJet from MLI to ORD the Monday after Thanksgiving. Although I did get a ride it was quite difficult. The gate agent was lazy and didn't want to help me. She said that I would have to go back out to the ticket counter and get permission. :confused: When the pilots arrived I approached but they turned and walked off. They made no effort to talk with me when I approach the FLT deck to check in and say thank you. They just looked up and said "you'll have to sit in the back."
DA! :confused: To my knowledge you're not cass and the back was half full. |
Originally Posted by JiffyLube
(Post 94563)
If the story is even true....Grow up!
So anybody can deny a GoJet pilot, but a GoJet pilot cannot do the same. You boys are a bunch of cry babies... If you start a jumpseat war, be prepared for the consequences... I agree with all of this... 1. Don't ask a gojetter for his jumpseat. 2. Don't let him in yours. 3. Let the consequences begin... :rolleyes: I think the rest of the industry can manage their commute without gojets. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 94650)
I agree with all of this...
1. Don't ask a gojetter for his jumpseat. 2. Don't let him in yours. 3. Let the consequences begin... :rolleyes: I think the rest of the industry can manage their commute without gojets. |
Originally Posted by magnum_man
(Post 94361)
He was denied a Jumpseat in the Cockpit of a US Air flight and now he won't carry any US air guys.
Still Grounded....here you say that the GoJet guy was denied a jumpseat in the cockpit.....how you going to lie your way out of this one??? We cant even get through the gate agent because we are non CASS. Try something substantial like "I will talk with our people at GoJet and see that we resolve this". It seems to me that chances of you needing a ride on another companies airplane is lot better than me needing a ride on yours. All I know is what I was told, maybe I blew it on a technicallity with what seat it was, jumpseat, 12A or the crapper. Doesn't much matter does it. Your guy pulls my guy because someone else pulled him. Sounds like the start of a long commute. I am not saying it was right of the US air guy but you get what you settle for, one stab in the back deserves another. |
In reality how much more is a go jetter making than the rest of us? I have
p@@sed enough money up on a wall. So they suck, we know that, but I want a ride home, and they probably need one too. Dont punish their families for that. You want to find a monster, mess with the family....And for those of you that dont have one, you dont want to find out....By the way I am not a go-jet supporter |
No I'm sorry. I don't work for a regional yet. However, it isn't the family that is being punished it's the pilot. If someone is non-union they were willing to cross a line in the sand. When crossing that line they also accept all of the responsibilities and hardships that come with it. The "family" you speak of is not my nor anyone elses responsibility. He decided to do something he knew damn well was looked down upon by the industry.... He get's what's coming to him. I understand it sucks when it's your turn to go home and you can't do it. Personally I wouldn't ask the GoJet guys for a hop. If you got there on your line you can get home on your line. It's that simple. There is no price to pay for dignity and respect that's worth it.
PS. I wrote this drinking sorry for typo's and yes I had a DD. |
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 94737)
No I'm sorry. I don't work for a regional yet. However, it isn't the family that is being punished it's the pilot. If someone is non-union they were willing to cross a line in the sand. When crossing that line they also accept all of the responsibilities and hardships that come with it. The "family" you speak of is not my nor anyone elses responsibility. He decided to do something he knew damn well was looked down upon by the industry.... He get's what's coming to him. I understand it sucks when it's your turn to go home and you can't do it. Personally I wouldn't ask the GoJet guys for a hop. If you got there on your line you can get home on your line. It's that simple. There is no price to pay for dignity and respect that's worth it.
PS. I wrote this drinking sorry for typo's and yes I had a DD. |
Originally Posted by G2TT
(Post 93936)
I want to be careful how I word this, I am not trying to compare mesa with GJ, but it is not a secret that a lot of people don't like mesa. So what does mesa do? They welcome jumpseaters. You never hear of anyone getting denied by a Mesa crew. I have to ride them alot and they are always the most friendly and welcoming crews I run into. I have never heard anything other than, "Welcome aboard, glad to have you, make yourself at home." Maybe GJ needs to take a lesson from them, and try to build some respect (however little it may be) wherever they can. I can't believe GJ pilots would do this and only make it harder for their fellow pilots than it already may be.
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