Piedmont short runway
 

I used to fly a dash and knew it can stop quickly but never flew the -200 and -300.

In Boston yesterday I believe it was a -200 flew the ILS 27 transition to 33R. 33R is only 2557' long and it got me thinking..what is the shortest you can accept? I can't imagine finding a much shorter runway than that out in the system.

Would have been a 100, no 200's left. BOS and HHH are the shortest we do.

Holy crap that is short! I guess the Navy has their new C-2 replacement! How are your trap skills?

Hey we land the C-17 in 3500 no problem all the time! And it's empty weight is 288K add some fuel and cargo and you're at 400K landing on a 3500ft runway...but really we only use like 2000 for landing and 1500-2000 for takeoff. In fact in Iraq we would often be off the ground at 370K in 1500ft.

What were the winds?

It was cool to see. I know I could stop the dash and my current plane on that runway in an emergency but we wouldn't have the opspecs or data to even legally attempt it. The -400 had awesome brakes but even that I don't recall us doing under 4000'.

It was funny, the female on the radio had a strong accent and kept saying 34R, after correcting her 3 times the controller gave up.

Gusty. Probably around the 300° mark in the 15-20 gusting 25 or so.

Landing in 2500ft is easy.

Flaps 35 you can stop that baby in less the 1000' at max landing weight.

we used to use 33r all the time back at alg, pdt doesn't do it though *shrug*

Well when we merged it was interesting how many ALG pilots diverted to SAV when trying to get into HHH. *shug*

I think anyone who watches CNN or lives near TPA knows the C-17 and its short field capabilities. ;)

I had a release time going into CLT from CHS. One was doing Touch and goes. FO and I were truly impressed.

Ha ha! You can say that again! I lived in South Tampa at the time and was most amused. Flown that MCF ILS 22 approach many times...and since I was a local I knew the "gotcha" luckily.:D

ten characters

Can't land a turboprop on 4300'? They should be ashamed. Used to the mighty 727 into KEYW, 4800'.

GF

Bah they were probably worried about the confined space the runway was located in, not so much the length. Great ALG and PDT pilots and some not so much from both airlines. Flown with all kinds over the years

so you take my remark about apparent pdt policy and in turn infer a personal dig against other pilots? nice....
i think the good ol boy network at pdt has had plenty more incidents than alg did that the pharaoh over looked that would have gotten alg people fired...

i never heard of any such instances, and the few times i went into hhh i don't see why there would be a problem, but then i'd done 33r, perhaps these supposed alg guys had never gone there and had been coddled with just phl flying


like someone else posted, there's good guys and there's ass hats from both sides...

Hey dash8... Are you trying to start a legacy ALG vs PDT fight here??? You little rabble rouser, as you self-proclaim... Actually had one of the best overnights with a cool ALG crew in DC just before I quit PDT after the merger was announced. I am sure you were not part of that crew.

billyho... Do I know you???

not at all ej
I was pointing out an apparent difference in ops, and billy boy turned it into personal, alg/pdt thing, not I

ooooh and nice attempt at a personal dig there too, classy
so now two pdt guys have impugned alg people without provocation :rolleyes:

Impugned... Good word choice... Not an attack on ALG people, but an attack on your first post. Perhaps the bourbon has been mis-firing my synapses a bit, but your first post seemed a bit ............ and I did not know about the op specs, as I left prior to the change (it was the "shrug" at the end of your post). Oops. I rescind my prior post and wish you the best of luck. And screw PSA!!! Yeah, I don't come here often.

yeah I think the bourbon has blurred your focus there
my shrug was a 'who knows' kind of movement in regards to not being able to use 33r after we had to come under the pdt operation

KBFI- Boeing Field

The short runway (3710'). B747-400, at max landing weight (652,000 pounds, if I remember correctly for that sim)

I'll be damned if she didn't make it off the runway with room to spare.

Landing? No problem. Taxied off on A7, second to last exit.

All in the sim, of course, but damn, what a fine piece of airplane.

Way back in the day everybody used 33R. 1900's, Metros, Dash's (-7 and -8) I think even the Shorts. Then the airplanes got to big and to fast and managements got too scared. Then it was only the 1900 and the Dash. I flew the Beech and my brother flew the Dash. Both of us liked that KBOS landing. Looks like the Dash 8 is the last man standing. I used to get excited when they were using the 33's. It livened up the 4 landings in KBOS for the day. It wasn't as bad as a 727 at KMDW. A few really hot or snowy days there took a few years off my life! I wouldn't change either experience though. It gave me great memories and stories.

Landed the BE-99 relic on 33R in BOS many times ....night as well. Young & dumb....

We've landed on 33R...

Haven't been up to BOS in awhile but I do have fond memories of landing 33R. I did it twice on a trip not long after getting online a few years ago. It was an awesome welcome to the Dash :)