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USMCFLYR 09-08-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2670579)
It’s “too”......I rest my case...;-)

AAnd your tooooo eazy ;)

PDRit 09-08-2018 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2670618)
AAnd your tooooo eazy ;)

It’s “you’re”. At least we know you are a real Marine.

USMCFLYR 09-08-2018 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by PDRit (Post 2670621)
It’s “you’re”. At least we know you are a real Marine.

And you take bait like a running salmon!
:eek:

Ok.....you guys were right.
It isn’t fun or even a challenge anymore.

conoblep 09-12-2018 06:28 AM

I'm following the cases, since the indictments are public record through the PACER database in the SFO US district court. What I am more interested in (call it a morbid fascination) is the mechanism the FAA found out about the discrepancies. Fishing expeditions by agencies are expressly forbidden by federal law. Release of medical records are protected under privacy act laws, and we don't sign a medical release when we apply for an FAA medical (other than the NDR check, which we expressly authorize). The statement simply means the FAA will cross-check databases if able, which doesn't authorize a release of protected data. My completely uneducated guess would be to agree with the sentiment earlier in the thread that the FAA somehow used a non-protected means to gain enough probable cause to issue a subpoena. Also, sort of related... Why does this always happen in NorCal? Didn't the last round of this type of prosecution take place in NorCal?

SaltyDog 09-13-2018 10:47 AM

IRS is a conduit used in the past. States can access federal tax records. through disclosure laws IRC 6103 stuff). States in past looked at differences between federal and state taxes. Once any fraud is suspected, its potentially criminal and then subpoenas of other records (FAA medical forms, VA, Social Security? ) I suspect are accessed lawfully under criminal investigation. Prosecutions of similar FAA and VA cases years ago followed a nearly same path.

Smooth at FL450 09-13-2018 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by conoblep (Post 2672793)
I'm following the cases, since the indictments are public record through the PACER database in the SFO US district court. What I am more interested in (call it a morbid fascination) is the mechanism the FAA found out about the discrepancies. Fishing expeditions by agencies are expressly forbidden by federal law. Release of medical records are protected under privacy act laws, and we don't sign a medical release when we apply for an FAA medical (other than the NDR check, which we expressly authorize). The statement simply means the FAA will cross-check databases if able, which doesn't authorize a release of protected data. My completely uneducated guess would be to agree with the sentiment earlier in the thread that the FAA somehow used a non-protected means to gain enough probable cause to issue a subpoena. Also, sort of related... Why does this always happen in NorCal? Didn't the last round of this type of prosecution take place in NorCal?


This is how...

https://www.leftseat.com/federal-avi...tration-faa-2/

bh539 09-13-2018 09:04 PM

So do you check the box for receiving disability benefits if you have a military disability rating?

I'm considering filing for a shoulder dislocation I got on active duty but since I wasn't hospitalized (I'm assuming that means you were admitted as inpatient) it doesn't fit in the other boxes. I don't want to have to jump through a bunch of hoops though for 10-20%

scubadiver 09-13-2018 09:15 PM

Sure why not, I sincerely doubt the AME or the FAA gives a crap about a shoulder dislocation. I check it for my VA disabilities. Check a box if need be. No big deal.

Excargodog 09-14-2018 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by bh539 (Post 2673919)
So do you check the box for receiving disability benefits if you have a military disability rating?

I'm considering filing for a shoulder dislocation I got on active duty but since I wasn't hospitalized (I'm assuming that means you were admitted as inpatient) it doesn't fit in the other boxes. I don't want to have to jump through a bunch of hoops though for 10-20%

As long as the history claimed on the FAA physical and VA paperwork MATCH and you can pass a FAA class 1 there isn't a problem. The problem comes when you tell one story to the VA and a different one to the VA.

PDRit 09-18-2018 06:08 AM

Looks like the https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt-...qewPaQRC8QpGL/

Well that’s just a bit of a stretch....

Better get USERRA involved and the “how can you question my integrity” chant going.


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