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rickair7777 08-27-2023 01:01 PM

I might believe 08.5%

ugleeual 08-27-2023 03:48 PM

I still scratch my cranium when reading this stuff. Withholding (not entering on MedExpress) any prescription meds taken, when you have visited (last 3 years) a medical provider, and/or not listing any medical disabilities (from VA Disability awards) is just plain stupid. Pilots doing this deserve what’s coming to them … and they are looking hard.

AirBear 08-27-2023 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3688794)
I might believe 08.5%

Same here, 85% seems ridiculous.

PineappleXpres 08-28-2023 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3688758)
Wait, are you trying to say that FAA medicals are a joke, run in cash-only operations by the people who are most likely to ask the fewest questions about your health?

The AME isn’t the threat. The forms are air tight now. Report everything, about everything, and at all times. Fraud on the applicant irrespective of the AME if something gets unnoticed during the exam. Unnecessary groundings by incompetent AMEs is less likely when the FAA requires deferrals for just about everything so they can decide.

ThumbsUp 08-28-2023 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3689078)
The AME isn’t the threat. The forms are air tight now. Report everything, about everything, and at all times. Fraud on the applicant irrespective of the AME if something gets unnoticed during the exam. Unnecessary groundings by incompetent AMEs is less likely when the FAA requires deferrals for just about everything so they can decide.


The funny thing about the article is that this is a likely a far more rampant issue amongst other people (I.e. no VA disability) than it among vets. It’s just easier to find the conditions that the person is trying to hide when you’re receiving disability. The system is a joke.

hercretired 08-28-2023 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3689115)
The funny thing about the article is that this is a likely a far more rampant issue amongst other people (I.e. no VA disability) than it among vets. It’s just easier to find the conditions that the person is trying to hide when you’re receiving disability. The system is a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXcMhPu6To

https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/app_pr...story/item18/y

Item 18-y is a yes or no

If one federal agency is paying you a disability, and you are seeking a medical from another federal agency, and you say "NO", you might as well gift-wrap and hand-deliver the easiest possible FAA violation (or worse, false statements/lying on govt forms criminal case) to the FAA.

ThumbsUp 08-28-2023 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3689122)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXcMhPu6To

https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/app_pr...story/item18/y

Item 18-y is a yes or no

If one federal agency is paying you a disability, and you are seeking a medical from another federal agency, and you say "NO", you might as well gift-wrap and hand-deliver the easiest possible FAA violation (or worse, false statements/lying on govt forms criminal case) to the FAA.

I know. Don’t know why someone would try to hide something so easily discoverable. The people I am referring to are those with underlying medical conditions for which aren’t receiving some kind of disability. That number has got to be yuge.

hercretired 08-28-2023 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3689130)
I know. Don’t know why someone would try to hide something so easily discoverable. The people I am referring to are those with underlying medical conditions for which aren’t receiving some kind of disability. That number has got to be yuge.

I am sure it is. Just like people with illegal cable TV boxes is huge.

But the ones with illegal cable TV boxes, who call the cable company to come over and check their connection, is in a special group indeed

Nucflash 08-28-2023 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3688164)
no the main guy who even collects money to class action lawsuit ALPA



ORD captain who is all over the media with the pro 67

He’s been in the CPO or Willis almost his entire career. Does he even know how to fly an airplane anymore or does he just know how to collect the paycheck?

JohnBurke 08-28-2023 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3689115)
The funny thing about the article is that this is a likely a far more rampant issue amongst other people (I.e. no VA disability) than it among vets. It’s just easier to find the conditions that the person is trying to hide when you’re receiving disability. The system is a joke.

The "system" most certainly is not a joke.

The article concerns veterans, specifically because of unreported VA benefits, and consequently no documentation to support the ability to hold a FAA medical condition, with that disability.

The FAA doesn't give a tinker's damn if someone is drawing money from the VA, or whether the VA gives a disability rating: the FAA will make up their own mind, according to FAA standards. However, if an applicant has claimed a disability, the FAA does need to know about it. Those who fail to disclose are in violation of the regulation. Those who do disclose either do, or not not meet the medical standards for an FAA airman medical certificate. If documentation is provided to show compliance with the CFR and that one meets medical standards, then one is issued a medical certificate.

Anyone that claims a disability benefit, whether military or not, is required to report that on the medical application.

There is no need to pursue enforcement action against those who fail to report disability benefits, if those individuals have not applied for, and are not receiving disability benefits.

If someone has applied for disability benefits and has a condition which is disqualifying for an FAA medical certificate, then hopefully the money they're getting for their disability is worth it.


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