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Old 01-24-2008, 10:32 AM
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Oh yeah man.........I launched some chunks out of the little window in a Bonanza in the dead of summer in AZ doing unusual attitudes. No big deal, it gets better. I don't know if I'd go and technicolor a playground like the previous post said but the more you fly, the better it gets.
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:24 PM
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I don't know if I'd go and technicolor a playground like the previous post said but the more you fly, the better it gets.
I totally agree...spinning yourself is extreme treatment and utter torture. Not at all necessary after just a few times of not feeling so great. HOWEVER, if you are still getting sick after flying all the time, it does work to help desensitize you IF the problem is that you are sensitive to motion. It will NOT work if the problem is mental, i.e. anxiety, worrying about getting sick every time you fly, etc.

Like I said, it worked for me after no-sh-t puking on 7 of my first 9 rides in T-37s way back when. I tried the wrist band trick and I tried all the advice about what to eat (I personally don't think it matters at all...except if you fly on a very full stomach--that's bad), but if it works for you, then go for it. The only thing that worked for me was spinning.

I would go to the park for "maintenance" spins on the merry go round if I ever had a layoff from the jet (even after I was "over it"), just to keep my inner ear desensitized. The trick is that you have to get someone else to spin the merry go round, since you are on it.

I've seen a LOT of dudes have airsickness problems (I was a USAF T-37 instructor...aerobatics, spins, etc on their first few rides, all in the Mississippi heat). It's was never fun for a dude to bring back a bag of pride after an incident and march past all your buddies with it on the way to the trash can, but every one of them got over it. Some had to go extreme and spin. Most got over it just by keeping flying day after day. The ones that got over it the fastest were the ones that figured out that it wasn't a big deal, that it happened to a lot of dudes, and they stopped worrying about it. Eventually, they landed from a sortie and realized that they didn't get sick and hadn't even thought about it the whole flight. Then they were typically good to go from then on.

One other important piece of advice to anyone having this problem...dudes tend to look inside the airplane when they are feeling sick...at the instrument panel or something else that isn't moving. This is exactly the wrong thing to do. You have to look outside at the horizon and try to get what your eyes are telling your brain is going on to match what your inner ears are telling it. Look forward and keep your eyes on the horizon, while minimizing movements of your head.
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:53 PM
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i chew gum on all my flights. dont know why...i guess it has been preemptive action. havent been nauseated ever.

or you could try ginger capsules. i tried some of that when i was doing unusual attitude stuff (cause i feared choking on the gum)...but the ginger did nothing, so i went back to gum and made it through...without turning blue.

trial and error...i think thats all it is...
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TBoneF15 View Post
From a dude who's been there...

2) you are worried about puking. I'm not kidding. I've seen more dudes puke in jets because they thought they would than any other reason. If you get it into your mind that you might feel sick, you will. You will subconsciously be looking for any little hint that you feel sick, then your mind will run with it until you are.

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ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!!! I flew an air ambulance for 6-7 years in south Texas. We rarely got over 7000 ft, and in the summer the bumps were everywhere! The only pax that ever got sick were the ones who KNEW they would get sick. I tried hard to stop the nurses from giving the ride along (patient's next of kin) barf bags: they were the only ones who ever got sick. It probably didn't help that the nurses so eager to give out the bags were afraid of flying themselves.


My experience is not getting sick in the air; it's getting sick on the GROUND! Back in the CFI days, 8 hours of pattern work, bounced by the students and the air, and 90-100 degrees in the cabin, would wear me out. But it wasn't until I got home and went to bed that the world started spinning.
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:31 PM
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I puked my first few hours learning to fly. Then i heard that taking ginger root supplements would help. So i took a few of them and after a few days i didn't get motion sick anymore.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw2097 View Post
i chew gum on all my flights. dont know why...i guess it has been preemptive action. havent been nauseated ever.

or you could try ginger capsules. i tried some of that when i was doing unusual attitude stuff (cause i feared choking on the gum)...but the ginger did nothing, so i went back to gum and made it through...without turning blue.

trial and error...i think thats all it is...
I got sick my first two sorties in Air Force UPT, started chewing gum (yes, under my mask, much to the dismay of Life Support), never been sick since.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:25 AM
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Eat bananas, because they taste the same coming up as they do going down.
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:45 PM
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The Ginger pills worked for me in Navy Primary, but not sure if they are just a placebo.

Your burps will taste like ginger snaps.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:45 AM
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where do you guys buy these ginger pills?
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TBoneF15 View Post
, but the Air Force has a program to help. It essentially involves spinning you in a chair (called a barany chair) and then making you move your skull around to induce tumbling sensations. It's hell on earth, but it works to desensitize you quickly. I know you don't have that exact option, but I used to go to the park and spin on the merry go round thing for a while (close your eyes and spin until you don't really feel like you are spinning anymore, then start moving your head around...it sucks). That's pretty extreme advice and I don't think you are there yet

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((I would go to the park for "maintenance" spins on the merry go round if I ever had a layoff from the jet (even after I was "over it"), just to keep my inner ear desensitized. The trick is that you have to get someone else to spin the merry go round, since you are on it.))
I agree with you TBoneF15 in every points , and i would like to know more
about spinning to desensitize yourself and any tips how can i over come it if it was ( worrying about getting sick ) ??

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