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Starlifter 12-12-2013 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by LOCO33 (Post 1538758)
Thanks, guys. This info is helpful since several of us are getting out of our squadron and moving on to the airlines, but we are all unsure of the VA medical piece and how it may affect the Class 1. We all have back/neck issues, but I'm assuming that half of the other airline pilots do as well. Our separation counselors are really pushing us to accomplish this step before getting out of the military.

Had the surgery for back while in AF, have disability rating and get paid for it. Checked the block with short explanation. Never has been an issue with my FAA Class 1 Medical.

Lifter

rickair7777 12-13-2013 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by outaluckagain (Post 1538753)
It is my understanding that these people who went to jail were lying about disabilities that were disqualifying according toFAA. Heart atttacks stroke etc.

Most likely. But I wouldn't lie about anything, even if they'd have a hard time getting a judge to jail you over hemorrhoids, they can still pull all your tickets with little chance of appeal.

LowSlowT2 12-13-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by outaluckagain (Post 1538753)
It is my understanding that these people who went to jail were lying about disabilities that were disqualifying according toFAA. Heart atttacks stroke etc.


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1538960)
Most likely. But I wouldn't lie about anything, even if they'd have a hard time getting a judge to jail you over hemorrhoids, they can still pull all your tickets with little chance of appeal.

True. The high-profile cases were essentially SSDI fraud and these folks went to jail (and rightfully so). However, the FAA later did a study in N. CA in ~'07-09 timeframe and pulled medicals/tickets for many, many folks - most were able to just provide additional info and get their medicals back, a few had to fight to get their tickets back. The bottom line is the FAA used this study to make the case to congress to obtain access to the VA & SSA databases which they received in late summer '11 or so.

What they're doing with that access currently is anyone's guess. I'm assuming that right now they're just cross checking it when you tick the box to make sure what you put down jives with what's in your records. However, bureaucracies never shrink, so the ever-present "mission creep" could be interpreted as they will eventually actively cross-check everything. What will they do with that info? Anyone's guess. Maybe nothing....but bureaucracies have to justify personnel and money, so my bet is they'll do something.

I can envision a few worst-case scenarios that would be a nightmare for pilots...

FRAG USN 01-22-2014 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by LOCO33 (Post 1538758)
Thanks, guys. This info is helpful since several of us are getting out of our squadron and moving on to the airlines, but we are all unsure of the VA medical piece and how it may affect the Class 1. We all have back/neck issues, but I'm assuming that half of the other airline pilots do as well. Our separation counselors are really pushing us to accomplish this step before getting out of the military.

+1. I have a VA claim in for my neck/back because it should rightfully be characterized as "service connected". I don't regret all the great flying I did in the Navy, but know it'll haunt me someday. So, I'll gladly accept any compensation for the pain that is coming as a result of it - and particularly as other retirement benefits are getting slashed.

TheWeatherman 09-15-2015 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by LowSlowT2 (Post 1137608)
For what, $30/month? Is your Class I worth $30/month? It isn't an issue now, and I can't fault your AME's advice given CURRENT FAA actions, but I don't trust any bureaucracy any farther than I can throw it (which generally isn't far), so it's not worth it to me.

You can file later if you want - yes it's easier now, but not impossible later.

If, however, you can tally up 50%+ and get concurrent receipt with stuff your AME is happy with, I'd go for it because that's a different risk/reward ratio.

It's just not that $30 a month, but the fact that the Government is responsible for treating that injury for the rest of your life. Meaning if it requires an operation later in life, it is all paid for which could save you tens of thousands.

TheWeatherman 09-15-2015 11:47 AM

I am getting my First Class medical next week, but for the first time with a VA 30% disability rating. I will let you know how it goes and if the disability rating provides any roadblocks.

rickair7777 09-15-2015 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 1971936)
I am getting my First Class medical next week, but for the first time with a VA 30% disability rating. I will let you know how it goes and if the disability rating provides any roadblocks.

Having a rating, or the value of the rating, is irrelevant. It all comes down to the condition(s) in question. I would guess the vast majority of folks rated under 50% can get an FAA 1C unless they have something specifically disqualifying (ex diabetes). If the stuff your rated for doesn't intefere with flying and is stable, you should have no worries. Bring supporting docs for anything questionable.

TheWeatherman 09-15-2015 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1972099)
Having a rating, or the value of the rating, is irrelevant. It all comes down to the condition(s) in question. I would guess the vast majority of folks rated under 50% can get an FAA 1C unless they have something specifically disqualifying (ex diabetes). If the stuff your rated for doesn't intefere with flying and is stable, you should have no worries. Bring supporting docs for anything questionable.

Thanks. The disabilities are for the shoulder, knee, and lower back so I don't think it should impact my physical.

I know I bumped up an old thread here, but it was the first result that came up when I searched google to see if a disability rating impacts a FAA first class physical. There is some good information in here so I think the thread is still very relevant.

USAF Bandit 10-04-2015 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 1971936)
I am getting my First Class medical next week, but for the first time with a VA 30% disability rating. I will let you know how it goes and if the disability rating provides any roadblocks.

Anything to report? Appreciate any info you have!

mexipilot84 10-04-2015 08:14 AM

I never had a problem been with the same doctor about 10yrs the first time I showed him my 40% and military medical records. Never had an issue. I just always fill in the blocks as previously reported no change.


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