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scambo1 03-16-2015 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by vroll1800 (Post 1843735)
Requiring AME to delve into factors "other than BMI" may well be more insidious to more airmen than the BMI alone.

For every measure there a countermeasure.

Where's the thread entitled Does anyone know who the just fog a mirror flt docs are?

Learflyer 03-16-2015 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1843767)
Which one is best, dalad? :)

The girlfriend. She will just gently nudge you to break the snoring. The wife will punch hard. :)

forgot to bid 03-16-2015 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1843775)
Can't believe this is an issue, people over 35 BMI shouldn't even be allowed to hold a first class medical.

I think they could probably get away with if your BMI is >= 25 you get tested for body fat and that there is a body fat % where your medical is lost or probation.

But, your health as it relates to weight (BMI) has nothing to do with what the FAA is up to here. It's not about weight.

JamesNoBrakes 03-16-2015 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1843775)
Can't believe this is an issue, people over 35 BMI shouldn't even be allowed to hold a first class medical.

Have we gotten to the point of the thread yet where everyone over 35 BMI claims to be an Olympic weight lifter?

FIIGMO 03-16-2015 06:06 AM

BMI may just be the vehicle to rid the US airline industry of old grumpy frumpy cat ranchers and burt reynolds gussetted FA's:D

Maybe then we can compete with foreign carriers on service!

One can only hope they use it on FA's too, have you seen the size of necks on some of them?

Douglas9 03-16-2015 06:16 AM

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forgot to bid 03-16-2015 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1843802)
BMI may just be the vehicle to rid the US airline industry of old grumpy frumpy cat ranchers and burt reynolds gussetted FA's:D

Maybe then we can compete with foreign carriers on service!

One can only hope they use it on FA's too, have you seen the size of necks on some of them?

Given what I've seen of Singapore Airlines, we'll never get there. :D

What does stink now that I think about it was I flew with two pilots over the last month, both single seat fighter guys at one point in their lives. Both are > 63 years old. One was overweight yet awesome in every aspect of airline Captaining, the other was the exact opposite in every single way. The first would be removed on a BMI test the second wouldn't, yet the skinny one required the temp in the cockpit to be 85. I think he had circulation issues. But that's not tested.

Again the FAA isn't after you having a health weight, that's not even a part of this OSA thing.

OpenClimb 03-16-2015 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by sleepdoclv (Post 1843707)
Fully understand your sentiment. But I am not an AME, I have no influence on who gets referred, I had no influence on the FAA, and my interaction has been with pilots who have needed help with SI. The reality is there are going to be pilots who are identified as being at high risk for OSA, they are going to need to find a sleep physician who can ensure that the medical certificate is not placed in jeopardy. If that is what a troll does so be it.

Actually, what a sales-based troll typically does is show up out of the blue with a new account and post misinformation, half-truths and links to a website riddled with more self-serving sales talk based on scare tactics and innuendo.

The sales pitch, scare tactics and strained interpretations all lead the reader to a single career-saving solution: buy what the troll is selling.

Sound familiar?

coopervane 03-16-2015 06:34 AM

Here's my issue with this.

Has ther ever been a documented case where OSA has been linked to a incident.

Fatigue? Yes I'm sure, but was OSA identified as the culprit? If no, then why focus on this? Aren't there more important health issues to tackle?

I could see a focus on cardiac issues or focus on high blood pressure, but it seems someone at the FAA had a pilot with OSA boning his wife.

Sink r8 03-16-2015 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by coopervane (Post 1843820)
...seems someone at the FAA had a pilot with OSA boning his wife.

Or someone's in a boning relationship with someone selling an app?


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