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HawkD 08-14-2017 12:43 AM

Any news ?
 
Just curious if things are moving along any better at SW.

RWStink 08-14-2017 03:30 PM

Nope. The time building has been OK, but there is a serious backlog of instruction. Specifically the multi-engine.


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HawkD 08-16-2017 12:42 AM

Do it differently?
 
I know that Piedmont uses two other schools besides SW, would any one do things differently and go with the company that gets you through the piston training quicker? I am considering it

Tester130 08-16-2017 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by HawkD (Post 2411441)
I know that Piedmont uses two other schools besides SW, would any one do things differently and go with the company that gets you through the piston training quicker? I am considering it



That would depend on the individual. If you can't afford delays and don't care about the bases or other differences between the two airlines, than sure. If you live in a PSA base already then waiting it out might be worth it to you. No one answer is going to be right for everyone.


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WhiteMorpheus 08-16-2017 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by HawkD (Post 2411441)
I know that Piedmont uses two other schools besides SW, would any one do things differently and go with the company that gets you through the piston training quicker? I am considering it

Piedmont and PSA both have similar LOW upgrade times. PSA just awarded someone an upgrade class date that had 10 only months of seniority (with previous 121 time). The main requirement for either carrier is the 1000 hours of 121 time.

Piedmont's flow agreement with American is better than ours, by percentage of Pilot group per class. At 6 per month we flow less than 6% annually, while for Piedmont their 6month is over 10% annually.

I had to make the same decision of Envoy vs PSA vs Piedmont. The combination of FW training availability and bases made my choice of PSA easy. Four of the five PSA bases should have some reasonably priced crash pads, if you must commute. People are holding a line only a few months out of training. And PSA is currently maintaining the training pace, while I understand Piedmont is struggling (but you'd be getting paid and building seniority depending on where the slow-down is).

JohnnyWiglestix 08-17-2017 11:38 AM

I'm currently in the program and have been flying in excess of the 22.5 hours a week (about 25 on avg), which was agreed upon in the cost analysis. SkyWarrior has a large fleet, almost 40 planes in three locations (PNS, MAI, EDN), and operate them 17 hours a day. Prepare yourself for a grind. Flying 250 hours in 10 weeks, in a 172, can be mind-numbing at times. There are currently around 50 people in the program, but it's rare to not fly 6 days a week, if you're willing. There are complaints, both founded and unfounded, but SkyWarrior is most definitely delivering on their pledge. I think it's safe to say that no other flight school in the country can provide the amount of flight time, at a low cost, in a short period of time. I agree with the advice of getting a PPL on your own prior to arriving, it seems like that is the bottleneck here. I came with a PPL and got right to it after my BFR on Day 2. I also like that there are at least 4 examiners pretty much dedicated to the school. Check rides are holy days on the schedule. You will have an airplane on your day.

HeliHooker 08-18-2017 01:31 PM

I've heard that SkyWarrior has quite a backlog for the multi engine training. Is there any truth to this rumor? How long have people been waiting to get a multi add-on? Thanks.

HawkD 08-19-2017 05:58 AM

Thanks for the information, I am currently at Rucker and begin my TDY/ transition leave late November so sky warrior makes the best sense, I have my ppl, and spend some time at EDN trying to build hours, I have heard the SW rumors floating around EDN it does cause a bit of concern as like most people there is a lot ridding on this and timing is critical.

JohnnyWiglestix 08-24-2017 06:41 AM

There is a bit of a backup in the Seminoles. They were all grounded for about 10 days or so, but they are back up and those folks who were waiting are back in training. I don't think anyone has missed or had to move their ATP-CTP date, but I'm not certain. I believe SW is now making the training time estimates a little longer, around 80 days with prior PPL. In my opinion this is pretty good, a lot shorter than other schools with other regionals.

KeithB 08-25-2017 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyWiglestix (Post 2418807)
There is a bit of a backup in the Seminoles. They were all grounded for about 10 days or so, but they are back up and those folks who were waiting are back in training. I don't think anyone has missed or had to move their ATP-CTP date, but I'm not certain. I believe SW is now making the training time estimates a little longer, around 80 days with prior PPL. In my opinion this is pretty good, a lot shorter than other schools with other regionals.

I just got off the phone with Mr. Sigler, and we discussed training times. 0 time guys, he was saying, are estimating about 100 days. From what he said PPL can take anywhere from 3-5 weeks, obviously there are different things that cause those times to shift one way or the other. I am really hopping to be able to get a PPL completed before I head down there in OCT.


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