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Old 06-25-2018, 02:01 PM
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https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/06/24/after-cancelling-3000-flights-american-gives-employees-a-pat-on-the-back/

Let’s see.....we cancel 3000+ flights and screw thousands of our customers. As predicted, let’s give thanks! I get it, thanks to all us poor saps that stepped up to FIX royal screw up by the leadership at PSA. Clearly blind spot on behalf of the president. I guess the PSA way is just what it is.....just words and no action. Someone needs the boot, and as I said earlier, when the capt screws up, he would be held accountable. BUT as you can see by the article, we just move on. Again, if this were a pilot, he would be lead to the street! Wake up PSA employees, loser president leading you down the path of nowhere!
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Lots of hate in your statements. I get it, frontline employees got handed a crappy hand and management just brushes it off as if it’s a Wednesday. You seem to be holding some anger here, having posted multiple negative statements on the topic.

If you want to fix it, stop being angry and start being part of the solution. Work your way up to where, when this happens again, you’ll be able to do things differently. Being an angry person is what causes pilots to lose medicals.

Fly and be happy. It’s not worth your time to hold so much anger in. And we’re all well aware, have been aware, and continue to be aware these issues. Observe, learn, and leverage yourself into a leadership position that can be better than those that came before you.


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Hey,Tree hugger, angry..****ed more like it. You sit in a crappy crew room for 4 days and not be able to get home for daughters birthday. All because of management failure. If I even showed up late and delayed a flight, I would be held accountable. 3000 flights let’s not forget.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy69 View Post
Hey,Tree hugger, angry..****ed more like it. You sit in a crappy crew room for 4 days and not be able to get home for daughters birthday. All because of management failure. If I even showed up late and delayed a flight, I would be held accountable. 3000 flights let’s not forget.
That’s unfortunate. Welcome to the airlines. We’ve all been there, but we aren’t all on here bellyaching about it. At the end of the day this is my job. Sometimes things don’t go as planned.

And it isn’t as if our management and respective leadership teams were sitting back sipping bourbon on their couch watching the proverbial globe burn laughing at everyone. They were working to try and right the ship. Because just like you, that is their job.
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:06 PM
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Hey,Tree hugger, angry..****ed more like it. You sit in a crappy crew room for 4 days and not be able to get home for daughters birthday. All because of management failure. If I even showed up late and delayed a flight, I would be held accountable. 3000 flights let’s not forget.
Best thing about today’s indistry is there are other options out there. You can always go on to greener pastures if you feel so strongly.
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While I wouldn’t say the company is completely innocent being that when even in a normal month SAP takes several hours to process something simple enough I’m pretty sure my iPhone could process in minutes or even seconds. So I will say, the company could have possibly been better equipped to handle such a catastrophe with better equipment and/or software.

But with that said, I don’t know what else the company could have done better to fix the problem with the tools they had. I’d be willing to bet that the schedulers, and even upper management were probably awake at least 24 hours straight (probably even much longer) trying to fix the problem. As chrisreed said, I’m sure they weren’t sitting on their couch at home doing nothing. I’m sure they were in full panic mode trying everything they had at their disposal.

And yes, I believe if a captain caused a cancelation of just one flight, he’d probably have to do a carpet dance in the CPs office. I’m also sure if you had a good reason like maybe your ‘93 Honda Civic broke down on the way to the airport, I’m sure they would let you go without much trouble.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy69 View Post
Hey,Tree hugger, angry..****ed more like it. You sit in a crappy crew room for 4 days and not be able to get home for daughters birthday. All because of management failure. If I even showed up late and delayed a flight, I would be held accountable. 3000 flights let’s not forget.


There’s ALWAYS someone who has it worse than you. You’re not at fault for the three thousand flights. And I’ve worked in IT where our best backups, our best live-testing, and our best industry-standard roll-out processes caused system failures.

Life happens. You’re the keyboard warrior looking for validation. As I said earlier, be happy and fly. If you can’t do that, I suggest you find a new gig.

Become a career CFI, or a chief pilot of a flight school. Work pipeline patrol. Get your DPE (in Orlando our DPE’s bank ~$1400/day). There’s tons you can do as a pilot where you don’t have to worry about getting home.

I understand you’re frustrated, I honestly do. But you’re accomplishing nothing by venting here. Take action, move up, BE the management that prevents it in the future. Otherwise you’re just a critic, and the whole damn worlds a stage.

And no, constructive criticism isn’t an insult.


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Old 06-25-2018, 05:55 PM
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https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/06/24/after-cancelling-3000-flights-american-gives-employees-a-pat-on-the-back/

Let’s see.....we cancel 3000+ flights and screw thousands of our customers. As predicted, let’s give thanks! I get it, thanks to all us poor saps that stepped up to FIX royal screw up by the leadership at PSA. Clearly blind spot on behalf of the president. I guess the PSA way is just what it is.....just words and no action. Someone needs the boot, and as I said earlier, when the capt screws up, he would be held accountable. BUT as you can see by the article, we just move on. Again, if this were a pilot, he would be lead to the street! Wake up PSA employees, loser president leading you down the path of nowhere!
Wow. You’re completely on point. Smartest move is to quit and go to an airline where you a.) Have complete control over EVERYTHING. And B.) Operate with a completely paper based scheduling and bidding system, and dispatch moves little model planes around a giant table. That way you can rest assured screw ups will never happen.

Calm the **** down.
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There’s ALWAYS someone who has it worse than you. You’re not at fault for the three thousand flights. And I’ve worked in IT where our best backups, our best live-testing, and our best industry-standard roll-out processes caused system failures.

Life happens. You’re the keyboard warrior looking for validation. As I said earlier, be happy and fly. If you can’t do that, I suggest you find a new gig.

Become a career CFI, or a chief pilot of a flight school. Work pipeline patrol. Get your DPE (in Orlando our DPE’s bank ~$1400/day). There’s tons you can do as a pilot where you don’t have to worry about getting home.

I understand you’re frustrated, I honestly do. But you’re accomplishing nothing by venting here. Take action, move up, BE the management that prevents it in the future. Otherwise you’re just a critic, and the whole damn worlds a stage.

And no, constructive criticism isn’t an insult.


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Just curious, what's a DPE?
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:13 AM
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Just curious, what's a DPE?


Designated Pilot Examiner.


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