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Greybush 11-25-2018 05:25 PM

Does PSA require TSO Approved Headsets
 
I really like the Quiet Technology Halo design, but I don't know if it'd be allowed.

Thanks

Irishblackbird 11-25-2018 05:34 PM

I have the telex ANR 850. Good headset and tso compliant. I have never seen anyone make a fuss about a headset being compliant. I even know of some check airman that use non- tso'd headsets. If someone gives ya sh!t about, just pull out the ships headset and use it until the a $$hole is gone, then use your own. Again, I have never seen anyone make a stink about it.

Greybush 11-25-2018 06:45 PM

This is what I was curious about. Thank you. I just didn't know if it was specifically disallowed per the company regs.

JayBee 11-26-2018 03:10 AM

Per the FOM yes, it needs to be TSO.

FlyyGuyy 11-26-2018 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Greybush (Post 2713938)
I really like the Quiet Technology Halo design, but I don't know if it'd be allowed.

Thanks

FWIW I used to Halo for about a year. I really enjoyed it. But, after a year I noticed I was turning the volume up more and more. Also the maintenance of having to change the earbuds and tubes was frustrating as the guy who runs that place is tough to get a hold of from time to time.

All in all its great. Super light. But I thought I noticed my hearing failing or the headset failing after about a year. Went back to my A20. I would be happy either way I think.

NEVER had anyone say a word about the headset to me.

If you buy one I suggest trimming the tubes a bit (an inch or so), otherwise you end up with these GIANT loops bouncing all the time next to your head, your coworkers will laugh and you will too.

ZeroTT 11-26-2018 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Greybush (Post 2713938)
I really like the Quiet Technology Halo design, but I don't know if it'd be allowed.

Thanks

1) IF you succeed in buying one (and that's a big if)
2) and IF the headset police object (bigger if)
3) you can easily resell it for full price, see #1

Greybush 11-27-2018 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 2714088)
FWIW I used to Halo for about a year. I really enjoyed it. But, after a year I noticed I was turning the volume up more and more. Also the maintenance of having to change the earbuds and tubes was frustrating as the guy who runs that place is tough to get a hold of from time to time.

All in all its great. Super light. But I thought I noticed my hearing failing or the headset failing after about a year. Went back to my A20. I would be happy either way I think.

NEVER had anyone say a word about the headset to me.

If you buy one I suggest trimming the tubes a bit (an inch or so), otherwise you end up with these GIANT loops bouncing all the time next to your head, your coworkers will laugh and you will too.

Thanks, I realized the website says in very small print they are out of stock anyway :D

ZeroTT 11-27-2018 06:10 PM

Dude makes them in his garage when he feels like it.

TeamSasquatch 11-27-2018 06:41 PM

I’ve used one in GA for about 500hrs. Works great and I like the fact I can wear sunglasses and a hat. I didn’t have much trouble getting one, even sent it in for warranty repair. One speaker was intermittent, and I could press on the speaker and it would work again. I figured he would fix it and send it back. Ended up getting a brand new headset in the mail. Quick turnaround too. Nothing but great service. Doesn’t work well in loud cockpits though.

Greybush 11-27-2018 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2715156)
Dude makes them in his garage when he feels like it.

Some of the best things come from garage shops! Haha thanks for the input.

Greybush 11-27-2018 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch (Post 2715171)
I’ve used one in GA for about 500hrs. Works great and I like the fact I can wear sunglasses and a hat. I didn’t have much trouble getting one, even sent it in for warranty repair. One speaker was intermittent, and I could press on the speaker and it would work again. I figured he would fix it and send it back. Ended up getting a brand new headset in the mail. Quick turnaround too. Nothing but great service. Doesn’t work well in loud cockpits though.

Good to know! I emailed him to see if he plans on making anymore. I will report back if he replies.

pilotRC7 11-29-2018 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Greybush (Post 2715102)
Thanks, I realized the website says in very small print they are out of stock anyway :D

I looked into these prior to our FOM revision requiring TSO. I was never able to find a time when they were actually in stock.

That being said, if you like the in-ear design, I went with the bose proflight recently and really like it. Of course, the price is a bit steep. Lots of the same benefits as the halo (sunglasses fit fine, able to talk to jumpseaters easily, etc...) but it's TSO'd if you're worried about it.

Jecain7 11-29-2018 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by pilotRC7 (Post 2715915)
I looked into these prior to our FOM revision requiring TSO. I was never able to find a time when they were actually in stock.

That being said, if you like the in-ear design, I went with the bose proflight recently and really like it. Of course, the price is a bit steep. Lots of the same benefits as the halo (sunglasses fit fine, able to talk to jumpseaters easily, etc...) but it's TSO'd if you're worried about it.

I've also got the bose proflight's and they're good.

kevin18 11-29-2018 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jecain7 (Post 2716414)
I've also got the bose proflight's and they're good.

Have you used the A20, how are the comparisons with noise reduction and quality?

Jecain7 11-29-2018 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 2716492)
Have you used the A20, how are the comparisons with noise reduction and quality?

If I owned A20's I would not ditch them for the proflights. I used A20's in a PC12 for about 3-4 months and they were amazing. Different noise level between a CRJ. But the proflights work great now, they are not good in a single piston though.

pilotRC7 11-30-2018 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jecain7 (Post 2716496)
If I owned A20's I would not ditch them for the proflights. I used A20's in a PC12 for about 3-4 months and they were amazing. Different noise level between a CRJ. But the proflights work great now, they are not good in a single piston though.

I used the A20's in the CRJ for 4 years and they were great. Made the switch to the proflights so I could have something less bulky. The A20s definitely have better noise cancellation (especially in the lower frequency range), but for the RJ the proflight is just fine. I recommend them for guys flying jets. For anything else, I'd go with the A20.

Greybush 12-18-2018 07:29 AM

If anyone is interested, the quiet technologies guy just emailed me back, weeks later, and has readded a few sets to his stock.

He said they'll likely all get sold today. There were 11 remaining when I bought mine a minute ago.


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