Get Your ASAPs In
01-28-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tlamjaj
Don't think it was the FAA that grounded. PSA voluntary disclosed, according to an FAA statement:
“PSA Airlines removed a number of its Bombardier regional jets from service after discovering a maintenance item that required immediate attention. The airline voluntarily disclosed the matter to the FAA, and the agency is working with the airline to address the situation. Please contact the airline for more details.”
“PSA Airlines removed a number of its Bombardier regional jets from service after discovering a maintenance item that required immediate attention. The airline voluntarily disclosed the matter to the FAA, and the agency is working with the airline to address the situation. Please contact the airline for more details.”
01-28-2021, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
File an ASAP that says what?
"I flew an airplane with a valid airworthiness sign off"
"I flew an airplane with a valid airworthiness sign off"
Lmao! Exactly. That’s a Mx/Company problem. Not the pilots job to ensure compliance with every Mx function. If the airworthiness was signed as it should be the onus is on Mx.
01-28-2021, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
there’s no way an airline is going to voluntarily ground their entire fleet at once and cancel hundreds of flights. There’s something else going on here.
01-28-2021, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
File an ASAP that says what?
"I flew an airplane with a valid airworthiness sign off"
"I flew an airplane with a valid airworthiness sign off"
01-28-2021, 11:22 AM
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The FAA seems like they would be partly to blame in all of this as well. I'm sure audits have been done several times over of PSA MX, and that means FAA inspectors have missed it as well.
As many operators of the CRJ here in the US, this can't be an inspection required only on the PSA jets, so the FAA had to have known this was a required inspection. Also, seeing that they've taken delivery of a number of Envoy jets, this would have to reach back to them as well, if it involves the 700s.
As many operators of the CRJ here in the US, this can't be an inspection required only on the PSA jets, so the FAA had to have known this was a required inspection. Also, seeing that they've taken delivery of a number of Envoy jets, this would have to reach back to them as well, if it involves the 700s.
01-28-2021, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardcharger
The FAA seems like they would be partly to blame in all of this as well. I'm sure audits have been done several times over of PSA MX, and that means FAA inspectors have missed it as well.
But it does seem like a long time to have gone without getting caught.
Originally Posted by Hardcharger
As many operators of the CRJ here in the US, this can't be an inspection required only on the PSA jets, so the FAA had to have known this was a required inspection. Also, seeing that they've taken delivery of a number of Envoy jets, this would have to reach back to them as well, if it involves the 700s.
To totally blow off an inspection without the FAA noticing for that long would require wholesale fraud on the documents. But fleet grounding isn't the norm either, so who knows.
01-28-2021, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Depends. Could have been a case where the checklist was getting signed off, but the technicians missed a required step in the process. The FAA mostly looks at paperwork, less at the actual mx or completion of paperwork.
But it does seem like a long time to have gone without getting caught.
I think it will come out that the inspection (or some part of the inspection) was getting done and documented, just that it wasn't done quite right.
To totally blow off an inspection without the FAA noticing for that long would require wholesale fraud on the documents. But fleet grounding isn't the norm either, so who knows.
But it does seem like a long time to have gone without getting caught.
I think it will come out that the inspection (or some part of the inspection) was getting done and documented, just that it wasn't done quite right.
To totally blow off an inspection without the FAA noticing for that long would require wholesale fraud on the documents. But fleet grounding isn't the norm either, so who knows.
A few months ago ENY MX started doing heavy checks for PSA up in MQT. I don’t know if it’s related, but maybe someone up there compared what they used to do on the inspection when those planes were at ENY, to what’s on the checklist now, and found the error. Pure conjecture here. No inside knowledge.
01-28-2021, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
A few months ago ENY MX started doing heavy checks for PSA up in MQT. I don’t know if it’s related, but maybe someone up there compared what they used to do on the inspection when those planes were at ENY, to what’s on the checklist now, and found the error. Pure conjecture here. No inside knowledge.
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