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DoNoHarm 02-03-2022 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Gazoom (Post 3365221)
Any recent DEC here that can address QOL and schedule or training/checksrides? Hot, short, long ?

It looks like that vast majority of DECs that have already been hired are gone. Some failed out, most others quit.

Not sure there are many people to ask these questions at this point, but expect 3+ years of reserve from the bottom of the list with absolutely no movement.

Urban achiever 02-03-2022 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Slow2Final (Post 3365275)
I can’t talk too much about training, but as a forever-junior CA, expect incredibly minimal QOL. You’re guaranteed 11 days off, so expect that. Our grids are so red, if I were a DEC, I wouldn’t expect to go a single day without being used for something. You can do airport standby (hot) 8 times a month, no more than three days in a row. Expect that too, it’ll be (up to) 8 hours enjoying the sights of an airport.

You’ll get PIC time, but I’d be absolutely sure that it’s all you need to get an interview and get out, because for most, it’s an unsustainable pain.


you can very easily get 12 off if you’re smart with how you bid.

saltbae 02-04-2022 05:50 PM

Well word is PSA is parking some 700’s since there are not enough captains. They cut over 30 lines from CLT too due to the shortage

PleaseComplete 02-05-2022 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gazoom (Post 3365221)
Any recent DEC here that can address QOL and schedule or training/checksrides? Hot, short, long ?

I mean... you know... this thread right here explained it all several times over... if you're willing to embrace the suck ! then welcome aboard ?

OpieTaylor 02-07-2022 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by saltbae (Post 3366294)
Well word is PSA is parking some 700’s since there are not enough captains. They cut over 30 lines from CLT too due to the shortage

Maybe, more likely AA had softer bookings then they predicted.

SetMCT 02-07-2022 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 3368484)
Maybe, more likely AA had softer bookings then they predicted.

Don’t believe that to be the case when the union announces the company is actively working with AA to return the flying they cannot cover.

daOldMan 02-08-2022 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 3368484)
Maybe, more likely AA had softer bookings then they predicted.

There are mainline airplanes flying to cities that they havent been to in years (if ever) and flying routes that were regional routes just a few months ago. AA is gearing up for the collapse of the regionals.

saltbae 02-08-2022 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 3368641)
There are mainline airplanes flying to cities that they havent been to in years (if ever) and flying routes that were regional routes just a few months ago. AA is gearing up for the collapse of the regionals.

Most likely due to international travel not recovering.

daOldMan 02-08-2022 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by saltbae (Post 3368683)
Most likely due to international travel not recovering.

Not even close. AA has said that we are at least 40-50 mainline airplanes short of what we could fill right now, and that is just on the mainline side. Most international destinations that AA flies to are full and demand is high. AA really never invested heavily into the asian markets, and that is proving to be a wise decision right now.

Latin and South America are huge right now. Some countries are getting 12+ flights per day and all are filling. Europe looks very good for the summer.

The biggest constraint for this summer will be regional feed. There are plenty of passengers, just not enough regional pilots or mainline aircraft.

Belizepilot 02-08-2022 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 3368691)
Not even close. AA has said that we are at least 40-50 mainline airplanes short of what we could fill right now, and that is just on the mainline side. Most international destinations that AA flies to are full and demand is high. AA really never invested heavily into the asian markets, and that is proving to be a wise decision right now.

Latin and South America are huge right now. Some countries are getting 12+ flights per day and all are filling. Europe looks very good for the summer.

The biggest constraint for this summer will be regional feed. There are plenty of passengers, just not enough regional pilots or mainline aircraft.

In the near term it looks like we will be a steadily shrinking airline for the foreseeable future. The problem AA faces isn't one which will be easily or quickly solved (less than 12 months). There's just too many things involved for a staple or merger. The regional feed will shrink, these passengers will be forced to drive to larger cities for that summer vacation/holiday trip. The only thing we could possibly see would be more retention money but we are already nearing a wages of second or third year mainline FO rates. There is one thing we do know, AA will try the cheapest and easiest thing they can do which is always throw money at the problem to a certain extent, after that it is what it is and this is where we are today. Get your time and move on.


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