PSA news, rumors, growth???
 

What's going on over at PSA? I haven't read anything good or bad, is it the regional worlds best kept secret?

Hiring 6 a month. Upgrading 6 a month. Contract hopefully by the year's end. Sorry abt pncl

Thanks, I appreciate it... Exploring my options...

PSA growth?
Not a chance. Why buy airplanes when Skywest will do it below cost?
Attrition is high. Wonder why that is?

Yea once majors starts hiring in 15 years everyone in PSA will bail! If we're around by then :P

Most Jr fo upgrading is August 07 hire. No growth. Still in contract negotiations. Nothing really new to report, hence the silence on this forum. However ill add that the fas just got a TA that apparently is 0 gains over all. Hopefully its not a glimpse into what we can expect.

Why are guys jumping ship causing the hiring of 6 per month the rest of the year? whats the JCBA look like now regarding soft pay, deadheads, ect.. Thanks in advance for the info guys.

You mean our current soft pay etc? We are still under the expired JCBA

Block or better, half DH pay. Full DH pay if you only DH that day. Jr man is 150% as well as open times. Hotels on sits over 5 hours. 12 hour ready rsv (FAs got it down to 8 which means we should too by next contract). Nasty crew meals that will go away as well.

Many CLT lines are commutable. DAY and TYS have more unfriendly early day one shows but you will hold a line a lot earlier. I remembered I was willing to do two leg commute because our rsv is horrible. We've been a little fat on FOs and many rsvs now have no idea what the rsv life has been in the past. Mainline was taking 4-5 guys a month past 3 months I think. Haven't heard lately if more people got hired.

CREW MEALS!!!! Wow, im sold... ;).
Contract seems to be close to ours now. I'll go where i have to in order to hold a line ASAP. Any new flying on the horizon? Is there a "flow up" agreement in place with Airways?

How long to hold CLT, and how about how many mo's of rsv in CLT before a line?

Let me emphasize on the word NASTY. :)
Phl and Lga got good crew meals but we get it mostly in clt. Bad bad. We got same 50-60 destinations. Few new flying here and there. Started Omaha and des moine. Nice to have legs over 2 hours for a change. MLB, dab, Myr, srq, hpn, gpt are some of our better overnights. Everything else is blah

Thank you, I've been called for an interview coming up in the next few weeks. Just trying to get a feel for the place. And just to be clear, the crew is so bad as you'd rather starve? ;)

I loved crew meal for the first few months. Especially Phl and Lga. Then it was always CLT and it got old. I do eat it half the time. At least the figs or Oreos and chips in it. There are days when you really don't have time to get something to eat. I'm learning how to cook so I can start bringing my own food.

I have to say, lately the crew meals has gotten better. Fresher meat. I think word got out to our vendor that our NC was planning on throwing away crew meals for something else in return from company.

Seafeye gave out our crew meal to pax and boy were they happy thinking we had in flt meal.

DC crew meals have greatly improved as well. TYS FOs are holding lines after about 4 months. If the lines in TYS were more commutable, I would go back in a heartbeat. Aside from a few captains, all the crews there are top notch.

And the no hot reserve in TYS makes it that much better (doesn't mean that they won't TDY you to sit hot in CLT or DAY though).

I was hired in Nov, am TYS based, and not close to holding a line. TYS is a 2 leg for me and I can generally commute in on the day of my first reserve by requesting the late start. Other than that the rsv here is pretty brutal and scheduling is generally not flexible with requests.

The round 2 bid for April in CLT only had 12 reserves on it. 9 of which were buildups. Im not sure if this is for lack of bodies, or more lines, vacations, whatever. Also almost every vacancy for new hires since I've been hired were CLT. So the whole DAY/TYS faster line thing may not be all that true.

Crews have been good. Some of the overnights are terrible. I will be in CLT on June 1 but could have held it this month. So 4ish months to get CLT if everything remains the same.

Good luck at the interview.

Any interview tips other than the gouges out there? Thanks for the responses guys.

I love the crew meals! They are free! Seriously I dont understand why nobody likes them. In my opinion better than eating Burger King or Salsaritos everyday. The wrap is actually pretty good.

I am in CLT and have been moving pretty fast lately seems like alot of people moving on and or upgrading.

And for reserve being bad...yeah its bad, but this has been the easiest job I've had. Some people complain too much.

Famous last words.

Like I said I loved crew meals for first few months. Wonder how long you've been here Mx :P

Good luck on interview. Pretty straightforward interview. Most of the hiring board are good people. Relax and be yourself.

Except the top 80-100 people, most are looking to get out. 96% of the captains here are great guys and gals. Few negative people but I think every airline has at least a handful.

All is great when you sit reserve for less then a year... Things in charlotte will slow and dayton and knoxville will see movement.... We will see in two years and a lack of holidays off and no upgrade in sight if the poster feels the same....

Reserve when extremely overstaffed is cake.... Too bad some didn't experience a summer on reserve.... Then I doubt he'd feel that way....

dayton pilots on property over a year still have no line in sight.....

Tys has to be about the same..... Clt pilots have been lucky that captains leaving are clt based and lots of dayton and knoxville fos only want their current base for upgrade.... That won't last for forever either......

You'll get tired of the constant changes to your schedule. And you might be like me and enjoy the spontaneous aspect of the job. Then it will get old. You will call your wife after not seeing her for 5 days and say your going to be home at 5 for dinner. Then Sherry will call from scheduling and say she has modified your trip. You have a 2 hour sit and then doing a XYZ round trip. Finishing at 10pm. You won't be able to make your commute home and will have to pay for a hotel or go to the crash pad. Either way your wife is ****ed. Your ****ed. Then you find out the reason you had to do the extra round trip is because the other crew member called out sick because he wanted to go home and have dinner with his wife.

After this happens time and time again it wears on you. The honeymoon will end. It's just a matter of when.

This is the best description of our reserve here at PSA. I have been here just over a year and live in base so it makes life easy. As far as holding a line, I have been holding one pretty steady since November and was holding a few build ups last summer. But Im always at the bottom of the list and usually one of the last three to get a line. Dayton is getting senior on both the FO and CA side due to senior FOs not taking upgrade while CLT has a lot of takers. Dont really pay attention to the CLT or TYS lines because Im never going there unless I have to but I have been hearing very junior FOs are holding lines in CLT. I was lucky enough not to sit reserve here for very long but I can tell you that when i did it sucked. If I were a new hire I would go to TYS just to avoid our pathetic hot reserve and the duty time that comes with it. PSA has its good and its bad just like every company.

Are you telling me you don't love that onion bread roast beef sandwich which makes everything else, including the oreo's, in the crew meal taste like onions.;)

I think DCA crew meals are the best out of the hubs.

What ever happened to the chicken caesar salad crew meals in CLT? Those weren't too bad, especially for not being real chicken. The company must have caught wind that some of us liked them and yanked them.

I was hired last Spring, so I did sit reserve for summer, I just knew that the next 5 days were at the whim of the company. I made the best of it. And yes still the easiest job I've had. I know how much (min) I will make, steady benefits, and a known schedule. Before this job it was a bit of this a bit of that, sometimes strugling, other times excelling, I will take PSA reserve over that.

I said a positive thing and many came down on me. Come on guys lighten up things aren't so bad right now.

Do reserve for 4 years then get back to me.

YGTBSM!!! So a lineholder gets a hotel if he has a 5 hour sit but your reserves have to sit at the airport for 12?! Talk about throwing the junior guys under the bus aka eating the young. I would give up crew meals to get rid of that in a heartbeat. But thats me.

You mean other airlines don't do this?? :P

When it's busy, rsvs get used up until 70 hours and sits hot rsv for the last few days of the moth continuously. I'm sure we will get hot rsv down to 8 hours but the problem is, we don't credit anything for it!!

Thats even WORSE!!! I could maybe stomach 12 hours of hot reserve IF I got paid 12 hours for it. Maybe. But to get nothing?! Y'all's negotiating committee must be a bunch of nancies. Or else a bunchof senior DBs who know they'll be on the unemployment line before they see reserve again.

For reference, at XJT we also get a hotel for a 5+ hour sit but our ready reserves only sit for 4 hours. And get this, THEY CREDIT 4 HOURS OF PAY! Take that to your NC with a big ol' whiskey tango fox pinned to it.

It's 10 hrs for ready reserve and there is no credit for that or regular reserve.
But you do get 3.6hrs pay per day if you call out sick.
So if you go to work you don't get paid but if you don't go to work you do get paid.
Welcome to PSA.

Bingo. The current negotiation committee has nothing to do with the current contract we're stuck with and they claim they're working hard to improve the reserve rules. The senior guys who negotiated our "concessionary contract" did something very similar to what Republic did. We were supposedly getting up to 80 something jets and growing rapidly so in their eyes no one would be on reserve or stuck in the right seat long at all so they put no negotiating capital into reserve rules or FO pay that was even close to being proportional to CA pay. When the TA came out it was voted down by the pilots. Those senior negotiators claim they knew we were going out of business if we didn't get a contract asap. Dornier was out of business and PSA couldn't find parts for their fleet of 328s. The new contract was one to get jets so those guys called an emergency meeting and voted the rejected TA in with only the LEC members. Most of those guys never sat reserve in their career at PSA let alone flew as an FO. They had no clue the perfect storm they were creating for the junior guys but they're not really the type to care anyway.

Reading threads like this one really make me NOT miss PSA. I couldn't take the recall when offered, and now I'm glad.

Didn't Mesa's Ornstein once say he didn't have to change anything since he had a stack of resumes 12" high in HR? And how old is this contract?

Do you at least get per diem? Then you'd have $15 to show for your efforts. That should about cover the gas for the drive to/from the airport at current prices.

Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.

Incorrect. You get per diem, but that's it.

Isn't that what he typed? You get paid PER DIEM for hot reserve? :D

Easy there hombre, he's a Texas pilot and therefore always right:D