Eagle and PSA merged?
 

I'll be the first to say this is of course strictly rumor, no real source but....

With the USA/AA merger most likely being announced on Tuesday. Lets toss around the idea of the new company deciding to merge PSA and Eagle.

Eagle is obviously short staffed and not finding enough pilots to cover its want of 500 pilots this year. It just so happens that PSA has just over 500 pilots. I don't see any furloughs being needed at all. With people flowing to the new AA (either by the all ready in place flow agreements or a new one) they could even continue with the plan of parking 50 seat jets without the need to furlough anyone.

This may sound crazy but i feel like there has to be at lest one merger between the wholly owned regionals of the soon to be new AA.

who knows... but just because PSA has 500 pilots doesn't mean anything. PSA has 500 pilots cause it needs 500 pilots to do it's flying. If AE were to just scoop up all the flightcrews at PSA who will do their flying?

But if Eagle hires furloughed pilots, they can hire them at first year pay.

Well flying on both sides would likely shrink some with the ERJ's and CRJ-200's being parked.

that "beautiful idea" (yes veryyyy sarcastic mode ) is why the airline industry is how it is right now! .....

sad part is it will most likely happen

Who knows but Airways owns 200s leases until 2019..... Don't see bombardier really wanting more 200s back and allowing them out on leases.....

unless they make a deal to trade 200's for 7/900's.

Don't really follow American but didn't they pick RAH over SKW because they specifically wanted E170s?

Tell that to every pinnacle pilot who said the exact same thing bout delta owning the lease on 140 200s....

Naa. I don't think AA cares what was flown. Bedford is in bed with both American and Airways mgmt as well as Embraer, thus making the deals fairly easy to get done. I also fully expect the 53 to turn into much more. Those 47 options will be exercised if our crappy company can continue to attract new hires.

Pinnacle=Bankrupt..... USairways/PSA=not.... Kind of a big difference.

I want a CLT base

honestly this could be best for all involved.

1000 leaving eagle? Really?

Isn't that the known?

I havent heard. But according to some mainline pilots in the "know" the 824's slated to go to AA is only a possibility that MIGHT happen.

If you mean to AA, THEN eventually yes, that seems almost a certainty. The 824 have an arbitration award that seems extremely unlikely to be vacated even in bankruptcy. The question really is the timeline for all those to make the move. The merger may or may not negatively impact the movement of those pilots, but since the merger will require approval from not only the bankruptcy judge , but the DOT and Justice, it will take probably till the end of the year to pass those hurdles alone and each carrier still will likely choose to defend most, if not all of their market share in the interim and that means replacement for attrition.

Beyond those obstacles, it could 2 years beyond that to actually truly merge the two carriers.

I must have missed the part where daddy delta was bankrupt who owns the leases. Not pinnacle. Kind of a big difference.

Ok more so isn't Delta converting leases on larger planes? Pretty certain they are..... Not like they have leases up in 2020 and just sending them back......

Pinnacle being bankrupt certainly does help in this quest though..... Don't think for a second it doesn't......

If we are so short staffed why are we paying CAs and FOs to sit at home and do nothing but wait for training in July

heard because training backlog and NO instructors, plus FOQ's priority to get them done before august. Throw current training, PC's, Loft's and the usual peeps failing requiring additional training.

thats why they are sitting at home until july.

And LCC owns part of Mesa, with a large chunk of the rest belonging to Bombardier. Seeing the connection this could be where Bomba gets the planes for a swap deal and allows Dougie to take JO out of the picture.

He already had that chance.

Would you care to elaborate on when/what that chance was?

When Mesa was in BK. Doug P could have pulled the contract. Their performance was in the toilet. But he decided to buy 10% and keep them around. Why would he let them go now?

Now Dougie could use is ownership, which I believe has grown from the intial 20% along with favorable terms with Bomba to take Mesa's 700/900s and upgrade a Merged PSA entity. Dougie get bigger RJ's on a wholly owned and Bomba actually makes an ROI on those planes financing sooner.

BTW the only reason Mesa survived BK was MAG ALPA raising a stink over merging with Skywest and how many pilots they were willing to take.

Why do I feel like PSA is the town _____! Eagle, Mesa, PDT, etc...

I'm surprised that our MEC (PSA) hasn't reached out to the Eagle MEC. With the AA/ US merger imminent, you would think that they would want to map out a strategy. Currently, all ALPA US Express carriers have a committee where they meet to discuss issues and try to prevent whipsaw. I think it's important to get Eagle on board with this committee.

I don't understand. Your posts are quite intelligent and you have a picture of Irion Maiden's plane on your avatar, yet your screen name is Texas pilot. Shouldn't you be listening to country and calling people ya'll!? Shoot!

You want to stop the whipsaw... Dump ALPA, form the Regional Airline Pilots Association and write one contract to cover all pilots regardless of which airline they're at. One seniority list based on DOH at a RAPA airline.

Include furlough protection that requires hiring off the RAPA furlough list before hiring off the street.

Do your seniority list integration as you negotiate it, then fence it from below. New hires after that use their RAPA seniority regardless if they transfer from/to another carrier. Think steel workers union....

Take 401k and benefits program away from management also.

Just a few ideas to get you started.

Why would you waste your time typing something so incredibly unlikely to ever happen.

I'm probably the only person you'll meet that wears boots, drives a 3/4 ton truck, but yet is a headbanger that loves Iron Maiden. :)

And has a Floridian accent.