PSA management panicking over pilot staffing
A message from the PSA MEC;
Staffing Shortage Update PSA management has recently taken a number of actions in an attempt to mitigate the pilot staffing shortage. First, management denied or canceled all Association leave for January, February, and March. Second, this weekend, management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March. Third, management advised the MEC yesterday that it was canceling vacations for pilots bidding in Round 2 due to extremely short staffing in March. Section 7.H of the Collective Bargaining Agreement describes the responsibilities of pilots and the company when taking this action. As the shortage continues, further vacation cancellations may occur, so every pilot is encouraged to review the language. Fourth, management has canceled selected recurrent training events—both ground schools and LOFT sessions—over the past week to mitigate the shortage temporarily. This move creates a number of contractual complications in the rescheduling of these events. Delaying training is also unsustainable as it creates further training backlog. The MEC is concerned that management’s focus on fixing immediate problems will compound the difficulties of implementing new aircraft. Therefore, we strongly encourage PSA management to take a longer view, using realistic targets with a sufficient margin to allow for success. Attempting to operate on a razor thin margin reduces the chances of success during the coming year and is likely to deteriorate the working environment for PSA pilots. We mustn’t be the continued victims of improper planning. Top of Page |
Originally Posted by Jetstream 823JS
(Post 1590614)
... management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March.
Haha.... :eek: |
That's too bad. :/
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You guys were quick to give and they are even quicker to take!
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Skeptical...anyone care to back this letter up?
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But where's Meyers to say PSA isn't crappy?
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And the new airplanes aren't even on property...
Bite off more than we can chew? |
Originally Posted by snippercr
(Post 1590621)
Skeptical...anyone care to back this letter up?
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Haha! Didn't see that coming... :rolleyes:
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That's a bummer.
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That's a bummer dude.
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A message from the PSA MEC; Staffing Shortage Update PSA management has recently taken a number of actions in an attempt to mitigate the pilot staffing shortage. First, management denied or canceled all Association leave for January, February, and March. Second, this weekend, management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March. Third, management advised the MEC yesterday that it was canceling vacations for pilots bidding in Round 2 due to extremely short staffing in March. Section 7.H of the Collective Bargaining Agreement describes the responsibilities of pilots and the company when taking this action. As the shortage continues, further vacation cancellations may occur, so every pilot is encouraged to review the language. Fourth, management has canceled selected recurrent training events—both ground schools and LOFT sessions—over the past week to mitigate the shortage temporarily. This move creates a number of contractual complications in the rescheduling of these events. Delaying training is also unsustainable as it creates further training backlog. The MEC is concerned that management’s focus on fixing immediate problems will compound the difficulties of implementing new aircraft. Therefore, we strongly encourage PSA management to take a longer view, using realistic targets with a sufficient margin to allow for success. Attempting to operate on a razor thin margin reduces the chances of success during the coming year and is likely to deteriorate the working environment for PSA pilots. We mustn’t be the continued victims of improper planning. Top of Page A friend of mine sent me the RSV staffing for march in the FO side at CLT. Negative numbers every day! |
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I'm sure they can/will bend over just a little bit more, and take this 'sad' news well! http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...cons/icon7.gif
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I can corroborate this...its true.
I don't really think we need internal messages posted on here though. |
Why are people so bummed out?
This is great news |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 1590675)
So, what about the 2 year upgrade?
A friend of mine sent me the RSV staffing for march in the FO side at CLT. Negative numbers every day! They will get a little relief from guys coming off IOE but there were no reserve lines bid. |
Originally Posted by pagey
(Post 1590725)
There actually aren't any reserve FOs in CLT for march.
They will get a little relief from guys coming off IOE but there were no reserve lines bid. Good luck CLT |
Originally Posted by MrMustache
(Post 1590627)
But where's Meyers to say PSA isn't crappy?
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Originally Posted by pagey
(Post 1590723)
I can corroborate this...its true.
I don't really think we need internal messages posted on here though. At Eagle we are your friends, not enemies! |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1590741)
Come one Pagey!!! It's good to share this information. With that said this is not the time to knock on the PSA pilots. We need to pull together, Pagey I ask you to ask your MEC to collaborate and work with the other ALPA MEC's. We need to pull together as pilots and improve our situations collaborately. I hope this opens the doors for you guys to possibly negotiate improvements on your deal. I'm sorry to hear that your QOL is now suffering, after you guys have manageemnt what they wanted.
At Eagle we are your friends, not enemies! |
Originally Posted by FerrisBluer
(Post 1590740)
Oh Meyers? He's over on the Mesa thread putting everyone in their place. :rolleyes:
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lol
Won't be long until we see the truth come out about Mesa as well... they are all trying to tell us classes are full, people are flocking to work here... Truth is, its all a crock of $h!t...
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Wait until summer. The whip will be cracking on their backs
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
(Post 1590746)
Just saw a class of 32.... Guess it must be awful.... You're really saying any regional is better? Too funny. However you will see two years or less upgrades at PSA. Guess a 4 year FO cap won't matter. They'll find away to fix this with money.....
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Originally Posted by spuzzyair
(Post 1590749)
Won't be long until we see the truth come out about Mesa as well... they are all trying to tell us classes are full, people are flocking to work here... Truth is, its all a crock of $h!t...
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
(Post 1590753)
Its a good thing.... :) As long as 70 doesn't happen....
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1590741)
At Eagle we are your friends, not enemies!
Every 'Real Eagle' pilot I fly with has a few choice words to say when they hear a 'Brown Streak' check in with ATC since your vote. |
Originally Posted by Ferrinubuer
(Post 1590752)
Oh hey welcome back. Now stay!:D
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Originally Posted by Atlantic
(Post 1590759)
I truely hope this is sarcasm?
Evey 'Real Eagle' pilot I fly with has a few choice words to say when they hear a 'Brown Streak' check in with ATC since your vote. |
Same thing over at XJT. They have MEC officers and Cheif pilots flying. They are rolling days off and have cancelled a couple of months of vacation after offering to buy it back at 200%.
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1590768)
I am not happy about the what PSA did, they were sold on airplanes that would take over flying I am currently doing and the bite at the apple. With that said I don't wish any harm to the pilots at PSA but so wish that the model management seeks fails. I do wish that we work together and try to repair the damage done in the past.
However, if another group tries to bring the industry to new lows, and put my livelyhood in jeopardy, well, they will NEVER have any respect from me. |
Originally Posted by Atlantic
(Post 1590775)
I'm sure you'll get a few High Fives from the PSA guys by saying this.
However, if another group tries to bring the industry to new lows, and put my livelyhood in jeopardy, well, they will NEVER have any respect from me. |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1590773)
How is that flow working??
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Originally Posted by Nevets
(Post 1590770)
Same thing over at XJT. They have MEC officers and Cheif pilots flying. They are rolling days off and have cancelled a couple of months of vacation after offering to buy it back at 200%.
Any removal of vacations or time off to solve staffing issues can only last so long at any company. At some point people just will not stand for it, and what are they going to do when we don't? Start firing the pilots in the middle of a staffing crisis, and make their staffing issues even worse? |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1590741)
Come one Pagey!!! It's good to share this information. With that said this is not the time to knock on the PSA pilots. We need to pull together, Pagey I ask you to ask your MEC to collaborate and work with the other ALPA MEC's. We need to pull together as pilots and improve our situations collaborately. I hope this opens the doors for you guys to possibly negotiate improvements on your deal. I'm sorry to hear that your QOL is now suffering, after you guys have manageemnt what they wanted.
At Eagle we are your friends, not enemies! There are two tragedies in life: 1. Not getting what you want. 2.GETTING IT |
So is this a recruiting shortfall or a training bottleneck?
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Originally Posted by Jetstream 823JS
(Post 1590614)
A message from the PSA MEC;
Staffing Shortage Update PSA management has recently taken a number of actions in an attempt to mitigate the pilot staffing shortage. First, management denied or canceled all Association leave for January, February, and March. Second, this weekend, management decided to hold four pilots at PSA indefinitely rather than allow them to begin a class at US Airways in March. |
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