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MartinC08 09-09-2014 04:41 AM

PSA Updates
 
Trying to start a new thread about PSA. Junior bases, reserve times, are they able to fill classes etc.

I'd like to keep the flaming out, and keep this thread an adult one.

skyxbomb 09-09-2014 04:56 AM

Haha trying is a good word.

TYS and DAY is junior compared to CLT. Shouldn't take more than 6 months on reserve. Some guys are getting build up lines a month or two out of training but it's all timing plus we're coming up on our slow season. As far as I know, most classes are quite full. A class every two weeks is the norm.

buddies8 09-09-2014 05:06 AM

How many does a full class make?

KMac6063 09-09-2014 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1723140)
How many does a full class make?

The class that started last week was apparently 34. Not sure if it was all pilots or some dispatchers/sim instructors.

Bumbaclot 09-09-2014 05:59 AM

How do the mainline guys treat you? I remember jumpseating with an eagle/envoy guy in the FD. The A321 guys were really commending him and his pilot group on the backbone they were showing. Just curious if mainline AA or even Cactus has shown there own towards express? I was shocked that they actually cared about the feeders.

skyxbomb 09-09-2014 06:09 AM

I'm not sure on AA side but half the guys on Airways don't even know or care who PSA is except the ones who used to fly for the original PSA. They're just very nice and professional to any jumpseaters. They have a real job with real pay and doesn't bicker online like many of us. The ones that are in the know sympathize with us since they've had to deal with Parker for the last ten years as well. Remember the yellow lanyards? Safety first.

I hope that Envoy pilot you were jumpseating with at least got a recommendation from the AA pilots. Otherwise it's just useless words to keep the time flying in the FD.

Zivko 09-09-2014 06:12 AM

A mainline jump seater asked the other day, "so, what airline are you?" I think some guys are in the loop while others arent. I have been treated well while jump seating

LucasM 09-09-2014 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1723186)
I'm not sure on AA side but half the guys on Airways don't even know or care who PSA is except the ones who used to fly for the original PSA.

This is true. I jumpseat twice a week with mainline and they are just fantastic and professional. Usually the FOs know who PSA is, Capts will say "Oh yeah you guys drive those little RJs around CLT right? It's not NASCAR... slow down!"

gold 09-09-2014 06:20 AM

PSA Updates
 
2.5 year upgrade and dropping

gold 09-09-2014 06:23 AM

PSA Updates
 
2-3 after IOE to hold a line in CLT

Aviatrx 09-09-2014 06:32 AM

The people that are not living under a rock know that the PSA pilot group has undercut the pilots at there own holding company. Some might be more vocal about hating you than others, but trust me, the informed ones despise your pilot group for collectively "lowering the bar." Good luck with 2 year upgrades and your interview. You wouldn't get the pass if I was on the CA's board.

AVIATORCFI 09-09-2014 06:35 AM

Does PSA plan to open a new domiciles?

Beech90 09-09-2014 06:37 AM

How does everyone like TYS, or DAY In terms of city living? A lot to do, good night life etc? I wouldn't mind CLT, but living in Dayton Ohio doesn't sound too fun IMO.

FODhopper 09-09-2014 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by KMac6063 (Post 1723167)
The class that started last week was apparently 34. Not sure if it was all pilots or some dispatchers/sim instructors.

So when it is said on this board PSA is filling classes fine we are also counting dispatchers and sim instructors too? How many pilots are in your classes?

idlethrust 09-09-2014 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1723196)
Just tell mainline that you belong to the pilot group that voted in a TA and stabbed the back of every other regional pilot group out there, and are digging the knife in deeper to the Envoy guys. If that doesn't trigger it, say spineless, pukes, yes voters; any of the above and he'll immediately know you're PoSA.

I guess asking to keep this thread on an adult level was obviously asking too much.

idlethrust 09-09-2014 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Aviatrx (Post 1723206)
The people that are not living under a rock know that the PSA pilot group has undercut the pilots at there own holding company. Some might be more vocal about hating you than others, but trust me, the informed ones despise your pilot group for collectively "lowering the bar." Good luck with 2 year upgrades and your interview. You wouldn't get the pass if I was on the CA's board.

With that attitude you may not see the left seat buddy .

KMac6063 09-09-2014 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by FODhopper (Post 1723213)
So when it is said on this board PSA is filling classes fine we are also counting dispatchers and sim instructors too? How many pilots are in your classes?

My class had 2 dispatchers just for basic Indoc. No sim instructors were in my class. I can't confirm an exact number because it varies. Some classes don't have sim instructors or dispatchers in basic indoc. I believe the last 3 classes have been nothing but pilots.

AnotherEagleGuy 09-09-2014 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 1723219)
With that attitude you may not see the left seat buddy .

If attitude dictated what seat you can sit in, the cockpits would be empty.

gold 09-09-2014 06:58 AM

PSA will have to open new bases at some point. PHL, ORD and DFW are good possibilities.

block30 09-09-2014 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 1723217)
I guess asking to keep this thread on an adult level was obviously asking too much.

Envoy just got decimated for taking a stand. What the hell do you expect?!!

Bumbaclot 09-09-2014 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1723233)
PSA will have to open new bases at some point. PHL, ORD and DFW are good possibilities.

DFW? Even after mesa' staking 29 900s there? Doubtful...I'm gonna go with PHL,ORD,LGA. Correct me if I'm wrong but envoy never had 700s at DFW did they?

MartinC08 09-09-2014 01:20 PM

What effect would going to PSA have on ones career?

tunes 09-09-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by MartinC08 (Post 1723529)
What effect would going to PSA have on ones career?

probably get you to a major faster.

astec 09-09-2014 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by MartinC08 (Post 1723529)
What effect would going to PSA have on ones career?

not much.. a regional is a regional is a regional. If you are trying to go, for what its worth, I heard the latest class had 31 new hires in it. Still going strong.

lowtimepilot 09-09-2014 03:13 PM

How far out are classes after accepting the position?

Aviatrx 09-09-2014 04:17 PM

Actually in the lefy seat buddy

Lovemywife 09-09-2014 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by lowtimepilot (Post 1723599)
How far out are classes after accepting the position?

Classes every two Mondays. I believe folks that interviewed today were offered class on Sep 29.

ClarenceOver 09-09-2014 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bumbaclot (Post 1723303)
DFW? Even after mesa' staking 29 900s there? Doubtful...I'm gonna go with PHL,ORD,LGA. Correct me if I'm wrong but envoy never had 700s at DFW did they?

they were there. then they went away now they are supposed to be there over the summer. looks like parker will give the crj's to psa if eagle doesnt eat a crap sandwich. where do you think they will go if psa gets them if they were supposed to be in dfw?

CRJ900LR 09-09-2014 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bumbaclot (Post 1723303)
DFW? Even after mesa' staking 29 900s there? Doubtful...I'm gonna go with PHL,ORD,LGA. Correct me if I'm wrong but envoy never had 700s at DFW did they?


You mean as a base or just in general flying select lines?

CRJ900LR 09-09-2014 05:06 PM

I'll go PHL as I have heard numerous times that PSA is going to have a large operation out of there in the not so distant future. Other then that its anyone's guess as to where they may set up shop.

xjtpilot 09-09-2014 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Lovemywife (Post 1723663)
Classes every two Mondays. I believe folks that interviewed today were offered class on Sep 29.

Is it a phone interview?

Pacer17 09-09-2014 06:05 PM

Has anyone interviewed recently that can give an updated gouge or any advice for the interview? How long after you submit your application will they call you to interview?

JohnnyDingus 09-09-2014 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by xjtpilot (Post 1723699)
Quote:





Originally Posted by Lovemywife


Classes every two Mondays. I believe folks that interviewed today were offered class on Sep 29.




Is it a phone interview?

For xjet pilots it is

Dolphinflyer 09-09-2014 07:05 PM

I may be p-ssing in the wind, but I will now be calling my APA reps and supporting a movement that PSA be blocked from any flow thru agreement to AA.

Yes, Parker will ask me to pay for it, and yes, I will be willing to pay for it.

What's next? "Ahhhh, hell. You're a good buddy, I know you and your wife were fightin', but I banged her anyway"

Later

Zivko 09-09-2014 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 1723749)
I may be p-ssing in the wind, but I will now be calling my APA reps and supporting a movement that PSA be blocked from any flow thru agreement to AA.

Yes, Parker will ask me to pay for it, and yes, I will be willing to pay for it.

What's next? "Ahhhh, hell. You're a good buddy, I know you and your wife were fightin', but I banged her anyway"

Later

How old are you? That makes absolutley no sense. Good luck

lakehouse 09-09-2014 07:40 PM

Scab central

Go chase the upgrade kids

Zivko 09-09-2014 08:00 PM

Am I missing something? Is there a new definition of "scab"? A definition would be great.

Riverside 09-09-2014 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Zivko (Post 1723781)
Am I missing something? Is there a new definition of "scab"? A definition would be great.

Google scab

PilotCrusader 09-09-2014 08:17 PM

The old definition of Scab is worthless these days since ALPA allowed an atrocity like the RLA to come to fruition.

The notion lives on though: a scab is someone who does not stay united with his unions cause for personal gain. PSA proved they are scabs, or at least have scab mentality. They will pay. Not just in jumpseats, but in career progression. The people they screwed will get ahead of them. Speak to any APA member these days and the buzz on them is strong. There is nothing the APA hates more than a scab. So get mad on here and spit back at the pilots standing up for the industry: it just proves how selfish and childish you are - All traits the mainlines will look to avoid.


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