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pagey 03-06-2015 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1838402)
Well, no one was talking about raises. Not sure where you got that from.

And let me guess. You are a 19 year old kid at some flight school that has no idea what really goes on at the airlines. No one believes that PSA stabbed anyone in the back. It was very obvious that the pilots did what they needed to in order to survive. If you want to blame someone, blame the parent airlines that force these decisions.

And remember, every time that one regional pilot makes a comment like this to another, the parent airlines win. This is what they want. If we were to help one another and unite, the regionals would have no choice to improve. Statements like yours is exactly what is preventing this from happening.

He works for Eagle, so he stabbed everyone else too.....It was ok for them though because AAG's threat was real concerning Eagle, but not PSA.

sublime259 03-06-2015 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1838402)
Well, no one was talking about raises. Not sure where you got that from.

And let me guess. You are a 19 year old kid at some flight school that has no idea what really goes on at the airlines. No one believes that PSA stabbed anyone in the back. It was very obvious that the pilots did what they needed to in order to survive. If you want to blame someone, blame the parent airlines that force these decisions.

And remember, every time that one regional pilot makes a comment like this to another, the parent airlines win. This is what they want. If we were to help one another and unite, the regionals would have no choice to improve. Statements like yours is exactly what is preventing this from happening.


You're very contradictory in your statement "help one another unite." If you stepped away from your PSA circle jerk you would realize how much your pilot group is looked down upon by others. Sorry, I'm not a 19yr old kid in flight school.

And I appologize if it sounded like I meant hourly pay raises, that's not what I meant. I meant its comical that you're asking for work rule improvements, increased flow, etc when you did the exact opposite of "uniting" thereby finding yourself asking for these improvements.

DETSports 03-06-2015 01:48 PM

It seems like once a week someone comes on here to release their built up anger on PSA...get over it and stick to your own life and airline people. Work hard and you will escape the stupid politics that is regionals.

sublime259 03-06-2015 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by DETSports (Post 1838421)
It seems like once a week someone comes on here to release their built up anger on PSA...get over it and stick to your own life and airline people. Work hard and you will escape the stupid politics that is regionals.

Ever think for a second that there's a reason they pop up once a week? PSA f'd myself and many others out of thousands of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a grudge myself and others will take with us throughout our entire careers.

CLT Guy 03-06-2015 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1838436)
Ever think for a second that there's a reason they pop up once a week? PSA f'd myself and many others out of thousands of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a grudge myself and others will take with us throughout our entire careers.

Let me fix that for you:

Ever think for a second that there's a reason they pop up once a week? AAG and my MEC f'd myself and many others out of thousands of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a grudge myself and others will incorrectly place blame on people that had nothing to do with this and take with us throughout our entire careers.

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You do realize that there were not that many "yes" voters at PSA, and more than half don't work here anymore?!?! Blaming PSA pilots anymore just doesn't make sense. If you blame the "yes" voters, that is your prerogative. Most of them are with mainline, or JetBlue, SouthWest, United, etc...

air101 03-06-2015 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1838436)
Ever think for a second that there's a reason they pop up once a week? PSA f'd myself and many others out of thousands of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a grudge myself and others will take with us throughout our entire careers.

By your logic, every other regional pilot should be pi$$ed at you and all your Envoy cronies by recently voting yes on a concessionary contract.

Yes, we all understand that you had voted no twice before, as did PSA.

To be so bitter because PSA didn't vote themselves out of jobs just to make Envoy feel better is of unsound mind. It's time to move on.

sublime259 03-06-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1838438)
By your logic, every other regional pilot should be pi$$ed at you and all your Envoy cronies by recently voting yes on a concessionary contract.

Yes, we all understand that you had voted no twice before, as did PSA.

To be so bitter because PSA didn't vote themselves out of jobs just to make Envoy feel better is of unsound mind. It's time to move on.

Unfortunaty your pilot group will never understand the damage you did. The new guys are just as guilty for going to a scumbag operator. I'm sure sooo many of your pilots have really gone to delta, United, and aa!! Tell an expressjet, envoy, or rah pilot that nobody cares what you did and see how that works for you. You all make me absolutely sick.

CLT Guy 03-06-2015 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1838461)
Unfortunaty your pilot group will never understand the damage you did. The new guys are just as guilty for going to a scumbag operator. I'm sure sooo many of your pilots have really gone to delta, United, and aa!! Tell an expressjet, envoy, or rah pilot that nobody cares what you did and see how that works for you. You all make me absolutely sick.

I will pray for you.

CarolinaAngler 03-06-2015 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1838436)
Ever think for a second that there's a reason they pop up once a week? PSA f'd myself and many others out of thousands of dollars and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a grudge myself and others will take with us throughout our entire careers.

As an Endeavor pilot, original Pinnacle, that's like saying Mesaba and Colgan pilots took hundreds of thousands of dollars from me and took food out of my kids' mouths. You guys are all the same. Oh woah is me, blame everyone else, hold a grudge, etc. Let me tell you, brother, you'll die young. Ain't worth it. I used to be that guy, but I moved on. I took my future into my own hands. And you wanna know the crazy part? The Colgan and Mesaba pilots I loathed so much for "stealing" my upgrade, PIC, and salary ended up being stand up guys. Quit being the typical grumpy, grudgy, angry person and focus on what's next. Good lord. It used to be entertaining, now I just feel sorry for you.

P.S. save the retort talking about our BK vote cause I reaahaeaaaaallly (Dr.Cox) don't care.

PDTpilotXX 03-06-2015 03:55 PM

There is a rumor going around CLT today that 60-80 back round checks of PSA new hires weren't done properly and ALL were pulled offline. Any truth to that?


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