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lakehouse 04-30-2015 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1871817)
Number of Airplanes
January 1, 2015: 64
January 1, 2016: 101
January 1, 2017: 137
January 1, 2018: 150

The final composition will be: (35) CRJ 200's, (61) CRJ 700's, and (54) CRJ 900's

Currently adding at least 3 airplanes a month (a few months will have 4 deliveries). The last delivery will be in May 2017. We will accept our 30th CRJ 900 in May, and then start accepting the CRJ 700's that are coming from Envoy (and no, we are not happy to be taking airplanes from another company). After those 6 months of 700's come over, we take another 20 CRJ 900's, and then switch back to 700's.

The 200's are supposed to be here at least another 3 years.

The 200s are done. Between awac being drawn out and pdt taking the Eny 145s its silly to think otherwise. Your company will staff this mess by parking the 200s

joek 05-01-2015 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1871911)
You guys have been getting airplanes from another company since the Yes vote.

Really? Whose planes?

CRJail 05-01-2015 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by lakehouse (Post 1871928)
The 200s are done. Between awac being drawn out and pdt taking the Eny 145s its silly to think otherwise. Your company will staff this mess by parking the 200s

Whisky just got a contract extention until 2018... Delta told Republic to fly the 145 for 5 more years. 50 seaters are still alive. You were saying?

CLT Guy 05-01-2015 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by lakehouse (Post 1871928)
The 200s are done. Between awac being drawn out and pdt taking the Eny 145s its silly to think otherwise. Your company will staff this mess by parking the 200s

I wish the 200's were done. They are terrible to fly in comparison to the 900's, and we would be making quite a bit more money if they were gone. AAG still has options for more 900s, and if we are able to get the pilots, we will likely get those.

We get paid a blended rate based on the fleet composition. The more 900's and the fewer 200's, the more we get paid. You are not hurting us by saying they are almost done, we wish it were true. I honestly hoped AWAC was going to get a good new contact and take all of our 200's which will allow us to get more 900s.

With that said, the 200's will likely stay around for another 3-4 years. Their leases are absolutely dirt cheap and with fuel costs low (relatively speaking) they are efficient to operate still.

FirstClass 05-01-2015 04:23 AM

If memory serves, the first 200 comes off lease in 2018, the last in 2021. A few are owned outright.

chrisreedrules 05-01-2015 04:48 AM

They told us that as of 2015, the 200's are profitable and they have no plans to get rid of them. We'll see what 2018 brings.

Ex lurker 05-01-2015 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1871951)
I wish the 200's were done. They are terrible to fly in comparison to the 900's, and we would be making quite a bit more money if they were gone. AAG still has options for more 900s, and if we are able to get the pilots, we will likely get those.

AAG does not want more 900's. It's considered the inferior product in the passengers and the Company's eyes.

There are a finite number of large RJ's available due to SCOPE. They are not going to max out that number with 900's.

CLT Guy 05-01-2015 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Ex lurker (Post 1871965)
AAG does not want more 900's. It's considered the inferior product in the passengers and the Company's eyes.

There are a finite number of large RJ's available due to SCOPE. They are not going to max out that number with 900's.

If that were true, I doubt that they would have just ordered another 20 900's a few months ago. I like other airplanes more than the CRJ as well, but the proof is in the orders.

I understand the scope limitations, and I wish that regionals were limited to turboprops and all jets were at mainline. But, the pilots at the majors sold scope for a quick buck and stuck us with this nightmare that we call the regionals. There are some larger RJ's left in the scope as it stands right now. It will depend on where AAG wants to send more airplanes. They can buy more large EMB's and send them to Envoy or more 900's and send them to PSA, but not both.

Ex lurker 05-01-2015 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1871970)
They can buy more large EMB's and send them to Envoy or more 900's and send them to PSA, but not both.

Exactly.

AMR played Bombardier against Embraer during the large RJ purchase negotiations in order to get a better price from both manufacturers. It made sense. But the CRJ is not the weapon of first choice.

I believe Isom admitted as much in a recent town hall meeting.

CLT Guy 05-01-2015 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ex lurker (Post 1871981)
Exactly.

AMR played Bombardier against Embraer during the large RJ purchase negotiations in order to get a better price from both manufacturers. It made sense. But the CRJ is not the weapon of first choice.

That is just good business.


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