Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1877561)

Hey, that's great, just ignore the direct question asked of you.

Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1877558)

Look, I don't think you want to get into a PSA-Envoy future prospects match. Mostly because, without personally knowing you, I have a hunch that this kind of populous propaganda is beneath you. Secondly, AAG has plans that are in place for both operators, let's not go ahead and jump to conclusions that "wheels are coming off of things". I actually agreed with the first part of your post regarding union communications to an extent, but it's time to practice what you preach - you can't talk about "standing together" than in the same breath belittle another wholly ownes career progression and general viability to further your cause or help the envoy recruiting effort or what not.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1877570)

Who's the pot calling the kettles black? PSA has ****ed down the backs of every envoy pilot for some time.

Let's not go there

Cujo is a union rep for envoy. What I get from his posts is disdain for the PSA reps. I mean it's bad enough to bend over and take it in the popper when everyone else said no, bad enough to laugh in our faces when it was announced you would be getting our CRJs.....but now you cannot staff our CRJS without your Union trying to FORCE our pilots over with them? Yeah. I understand why he would be upset enough to share this in a public venue. I am not impressed with the morals your scum union doesn't have.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1877570)

but now you cannot staff our CRJS without your Union trying to FORCE our pilots over with them? Yeah. I understand why he would be upset enough to share this in a public venue. I am not impressed with the morals your scum union doesn't have.

Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1877581)

You realize PSA doesnt have the CRJ's on property so why are we assuming they can or can't staff them? Unless of course you are preemptively trying to align yourself on the "right" side of some imaginary line in the sand without any factual evidence to support the accusation. I will be willing to have the conversation regarding pilot poaching when something comes to light (if it ever does).

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1877573)

Their pilots deserve to know it too.

Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1877587)

Guess what, even if it happened they still might never know. As a union rep, I would expect that you know a thing or two about maneuvering and selective communications. Maybe they did try something despicable, but you sound like someone who is just now discovering the concept of politics. I am sure the envoy MEC was was not stopping every step of the way to think how their collective decisions can help better other pilot groups' conditions.

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1877583)

Ask your rep. You're a PSA guy right? Call and ask. It isn't that hard to verify what I'm telling you.

If they weren't concerned about staffing they wouldn't be trying to steal pilots with planes. Why do you think they're concerned about staffing? Ask them that too.

When you're done, come back and review my posts for accuracy again.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1877591)

You are missing the point totally

Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1877587)

Guess what, even if it happened they still might never know. As a union rep, I would expect that you know a thing or two about maneuvering and selective communications. Maybe they did try something despicable, but you sound like someone who is just now discovering the concept of politics. I am sure the envoy MEC was was not stopping every step of the way to think how their collective decisions can help better other pilot groups' conditions.