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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond (Post 1877866)

What is actually happening?

Nothing. There have been no changes or announcements.

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Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1877874)

Only overstaffed if the planes are leaving. The PSA MEC doesn't want more planes unless they can have pilots with them too.

IF the planes are leaving. That's the company's decision not any MEC, why is it better if they go without the pilots?

This whole thing can have 2 titles, depending on which side of the fence you are on...

"PSA tries to steal Envoy Pilots"

or

"PSA pilots help Envoy Pilots by guaranteeing them street captain job"

I have a feeling that if the situation was reversed, the headline would be the second one. It is all a matter of perspective.

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Originally Posted by Waitingformins (Post 1877816)

You do realize Usairways LCC placed 900s at PSA, and eagle delt with AMR in BK.

You do realize the the now-PSA 900s were ordered by AMR prior to the USAir takeover and were only intended for Eagle intially, right?

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Originally Posted by Waitingformins (Post 1877811)

I bet, and PSA was negotiating for 170 and more 145s you just didn't here about it.

Actually no..not interested in new aircraft
type and training program...that rumor
was squashed over a year ago

Sent from my Private Jet

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Originally Posted by jetn67 (Post 1877942)

Actually no..not interested in new aircraft
type and training program...that rumor
was squashed over a year ago

Sent from my Private Jet

Not great at detecting sarcasm are we?

Not today I guess

Sent from my Private Jet

In think the problem here is Cujo thinks that if Envoy blocks a pilot agreement then they have leverage to keep the planes, problem is, is that Envoy is still getting the 170, so it seems unlikely that in an effort to make PSA a single type operator for AAG he will create an airline with three types on its certificate.

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Originally Posted by fisherman (Post 1877925)

You do realize the the now-PSA 900s were ordered by AMR prior to the USAir takeover and were only intended for Eagle intially, right?

The Eagle they were trying to sell off for 10 years with no buyer or the Eagle brand. I realize AMR made the words largest airplane order a few years ago and then turned around and filed BK with billions in the bank.

Cujo, this could be the biggest oppturnity ,in your career, for you to stop the whipsaw by demanding job rights for your crj pilots when they are losing planes to a sister company. You should be fighting for them to have the option to keep their flow spot, longevity, domicile, seat, and a faster seat progression at PSA than they have now at Envoy. Instead you just want the company to suffer so you can add another dollar an hour to the top of the captain pay scale, and you have no leverage unless the company wants something; you don't care about the pilot needs so much as finding your leverage and using it for the senior group. Please prove me wrong I have no intention of displacing another pilot off their own airplanes. The only reason I came to PSA is because it stunk worse every else.
I would have no problem going to envoy if you keep them and got the 170s,if I didn't get laughed out the door. The problem here is your trying to maintain an environment where there is an incentive to say at a regional for 18 years. When we will all be gone in 5-7.