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powrful1 12-11-2014 12:49 PM

Regionals suck, we all know it.

Mainline sucks, but a mainline day is better than any regional day, we all know it.

Management sucks, will get rich on the backs of employees, we all know it.

For the past 10 years everyone that has entered this industry knows, it sucks, it will continue to suck, until everyone bands together.

PDT and PSA took steps back, ExJet and Envoy are floundering, and AirWisk, Skywest, Mesa, and Republic (forgot a couple) are just living one nightmare at a time!

Concorde001 12-11-2014 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by powrful1 (Post 1781189)
Regionals suck, we all know it.

Mainline sucks, but a mainline day is better than any regional day, we all know it.

Management sucks, will get rich on the backs of employees, we all know it.

For the past 10 years everyone that has entered this industry knows, it sucks, it will continue to suck, until everyone bands together.

PDT and PSA took steps back, ExJet and Envoy are floundering, and AirWisk, Skywest, Mesa, and Republic (forgot a couple) are just living one nightmare at a time!

Very well said!

Helperto EL 12-12-2014 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1777817)
I just puked in my mouth watching that garbage. PSA pilots are undercutting dirtbags...enough said. Their actions have cost me and my family tens of thousands of dollars (probably hundreds of thousands in future earnings) so I'm sorry if it's not something easily let go. It is something I, and my fellow envoy pilots, will remember for the rest of our airline careers.

Is it a management decision or a pilot decision???? You guys are all so pilotish!!!! realizing what is happening should be anyones goal. Pouching is what is happening. If you're an envoy guy just move over to PSA you'll upgrade. Or if not just stay, regardless stop sulking!!!

RB211 12-12-2014 01:01 PM

I would not describe my job at Mesa as a nightmare, in fact I feel a little spoiled by certain things. You go leave aviation, go to the greener pastures... You'll see, a non aviation job can be far worse than a career in aviation.
My time outside of aviation was a real life nightmare. None of you know jack **** just how bad it can be, especially if your starting at entry level.
You better have a skill in demand, and you better be good at it if you want to walk away from aviation.
Those who ***** about their airline career know nothing else!

Name User 12-12-2014 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by RB211 (Post 1781965)
I would not describe my job at Mesa as a nightmare, in fact I feel a little spoiled by certain things. You go leave aviation, go to the greener pastures... You'll see, a non aviation job can be far worse than a career in aviation.
My time outside of aviation was a real life nightmare. None of you know jack **** just how bad it can be, especially if your starting at entry level.
You better have a skill in demand, and you better be good at it if you want to walk away from aviation.
Those who ***** about their airline career know nothing else!

I literally shoveled crap (with a shovel, not machinery) from one pile to another in a former job.

I agree.

I would bet that 75% of those who are captains at the commuters, if they got furloughed, wouldn't be earning half of what they are making now several years later.

Some will. Some will probably do better. But a large percentage sit on their butts and don't know a hard days work if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. Most would go right back into aviation. Me included. Because it's still a decent way to make a living.

The regionals suck. Leave ASAP. Don't make it a career destination. They aren't. Mainlines really are that much better.

tom11011 12-12-2014 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 1781984)
I literally shoveled crap (with a shovel, not machinery) from one pile to another in a former job.

I agree.

I would bet that 75% of those who are captains at the commuters, if they got furloughed, wouldn't be earning half of what they are making now several years later.

Some will. Some will probably do better. But a large percentage sit on their butts and don't know a hard days work if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. Most would go right back into aviation. Me included. Because it's still a decent way to make a living.

The regionals suck. Leave ASAP. Don't make it a career destination. They aren't. Mainlines really are that much better.

This should be a lesson to everyone. You don't get a college degree in aviation, get one in a field that has real world teeth such as Information Technology or Engineering. That way when the inevetable furlough, ch13 liquidation, loss of medical etc.. comes along, and it will at some point, you can actually do something that matters in the real world.

tennisguru 12-12-2014 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1782002)
This should be a lesson to everyone. You don't get a college degree in aviation, get one in a field that has real world teeth such as Information Technology or Engineering. That way when the inevetable furlough, ch13 liquidation, loss of medical etc.. comes along, and it will at some point, you can actually do something that matters in the real world.


Or marry someone with one of those degrees...


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Lvlng4Spd 12-12-2014 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=tennisguru;1782008]Or marry someone with one of those degrees...

Yes indeed....and hold off on the kids, unless you really want to go that route...no thanks.

oldnewguy 12-22-2014 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1781054)
[mod note]

If you can't offer positive input to these boards, please refrain from posting here. APC is not a venue for flaming and insulting others.

Thank you, it does get old

chrisreedrules 12-22-2014 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by RB211 (Post 1781965)
I would not describe my job at Mesa as a nightmare, in fact I feel a little spoiled by certain things. You go leave aviation, go to the greener pastures... You'll see, a non aviation job can be far worse than a career in aviation.
My time outside of aviation was a real life nightmare. None of you know jack **** just how bad it can be, especially if your starting at entry level.
You better have a skill in demand, and you better be good at it if you want to walk away from aviation.
Those who ***** about their airline career know nothing else!

That's why trade skills in other fields come in handy... I have several :D ...Great for making some scratch on the side and also a fall back option in case I lose my medical or the bottom falls out of the industry again.


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