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12-16-2014, 01:06 PM

#21

Centra

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Originally Posted by TheFly

Nope. They are all subcontractors, but not all bottom feeders. A bottom feeder outfit will keep lowering the bar until it's so low you can step right over it. Undercut after undercut, to get new shiny jets and the ones who hold the line & refuse to take concessions get the short end of the stick. Look at the big picture boys.

I wasn't aware that SAPA had become a full-fledged union.

12-16-2014, 01:13 PM

#22

OzarkALPilot

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If someone starts January 5th. What do you all think the upgrade time
Would be?

12-16-2014, 01:26 PM

#23

FlyingKat

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Originally Posted by TheFly

It's all in the eye of the beholder. To some mainline people we are all bottom feeders who are stealing their flying.

12-16-2014, 01:35 PM

#24

weekendflyer

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Originally Posted by amcnd

I would say PSA. TSA's growth is all E145's. The music will stop on those airplanes at some point. Ask yourself if you get stuck somewere were would it be.. Thats what i did when i left Eagle..

Ok.. What about the 50 firm plus 50 options for the MRJ we have.. (Plus 50/50 E2 Jets) Our contract is waaaay better! We make more flying a 50 seater than most places flying 70+ seat rj's. Run run run for the shiny jets..! Please..

Lol your contract is not better and I make more money sorry buddy but enjoy your MRJ's whenever you get em

12-16-2014, 01:46 PM

#25

tom11011

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot

If someone starts January 5th. What do you all think the upgrade time
Would be?

If we are talking PSA, if you don't have the 1000 hours right now, probably 2-3 years but likely closer to 2.

TSA probably 6-12 months.

12-16-2014, 01:49 PM

#26

OzarkALPilot

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I have 560 hours 121 SIC.

Yes I was talking about PSA. I have a class date of Jan 5th.
Lateral move from XJT.. Getting nervous people are saying the quick upgrade has already past

12-16-2014, 01:53 PM

#27

Squallrider

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Originally Posted by Timma

You mean the plane that is yet to fly?

12-16-2014, 01:58 PM

#28

CBreezy

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Originally Posted by weekendflyer

Lol your contract is not better and I make more money sorry buddy but enjoy your MRJ's whenever you get em

Do you tell everyone you fly for mainline? I know I get paid better than all your FOs

12-16-2014, 02:01 PM

#29

Dunkin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot

I have 560 hours 121 SIC.

Yes I was talking about PSA. I have a class date of Jan 5th.
Lateral move from XJT.. Getting nervous people are saying the quick upgrade has already past

Upgrades will be less than 2 years for many years to come. You are in a good position, much better than at XJT. You will have guaranteed attrition ahead of you to AA and there are still 40 options on new airplanes. Get your 1,000 SIC time as fast as you can and you will leapfrog people senior to you. Those that are saying the quick upgrades are over do not know what they are talking about. With the exception of a few places, short upgrades will be the norm at most regionals without a bunch of lifers and no flow/pref hiring agreements. Just concentrate your energy on training and don't worry about the upgrade.

12-16-2014, 02:02 PM

#30

pagey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot

I have 560 hours 121 SIC.

Yes I was talking about PSA. I have a class date of Jan 5th.
Lateral move from XJT.. Getting nervous people are saying the quick upgrade has already past

You might not upgrade in 8 months like people hired earlier this year but slightly less than or right on 2 years is almost a certainty unless something happens to the 700s we are slated for in June.

Undoubtedly you will upgrade faster at either place than at XJT. With only 500 hours you can't have been there for more than a yearish, I'd say you have nothing to lose.

TSA might be faster if you already had the 1000 SIC, as you do not I'd say the upgrade time at both places would be near identical(as soon, or soon after you are legally qualified)