That changed.

To what?


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Looks like 6 is still correct.
Try this link and look at D1 summary

https://atd.jetnet.aa.com/atdWeb/atdregistration.do

Are there any Direct Hire Captains coming in or did that end? If not, guys with the 1000 SIC what are upgrade times? Chances for CLT? No need for the RSV explanation, a DEC or by-pass upgrade can expect RSV forever.

We had DEC's in this last award that came out a week ago.

Chances of CLT are slim to none anytime soon for a junior CA. There haven't been really any vacancies there in the last few CA awards. It'll go senior to the FO's who will be upgrading in the next few months and will continue to go in seniority order rather than skewed which happened back in the spring. Anyone could get CLt then.


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Hopefully the next base will be easily commutable. That should take some of the pressure off of CLT as the only really commutable domicile.

It will be interesting to see where it is. We are adding quite a bit more flying in the Northeast in the last year, with all of the DCA flying added early in the year, and now adding more LGA flying.

Thanks for the information. Assuming TYS is still the most junior? I was at PSA back a few years ago, but considering a return. While some may not suggest the move, I have to do what is best for me. Do they still let RSV from TYS sit out the RSV period in CLT? It wasn't guaranteed at the time, but most TYS trips started with a Dh to CLT anyway, so normally wasn't an issue to get it approved.

Minimum 1 year to hold clt captain.

Yes they'll do this


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New hire bonus
 

Looks like a $5,000 bonus is being offered to new hires now.

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They'll have to try harder than that! But it's a step in the right direction.

lol agreed.

There is quite a bit of new flying out of the LGA/PHL/DCA on the route map.

Why is PSA flying routes that were Air Wisconsin's until recently? It is still on CRJ200's.

I hope they don't get any new-hires. The pathetic first year pay needs to be raised significantly. Sign-on bonuses only improve the life of a new-hire for a few months, while the rest of the pilot group gets zip. The flow doesn't cut it.
Another weird tidbit at Psa, the airline doesn't offer vision insurance to the pilot group. Guess we don't need to read the station bulletins in the 200 at night anyway.

Not sure. The a few months ago whiskey was doing Clt Tys trips. Found that odd and pointless as it gets rid of originators for Tys crews


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No! It's a step in the WRONG DIRECTION!

The company cannot simply decide, unilaterally, that they want to compensate SOME of their pilots outside of the collective bargaining agreement that THEY AGREED TO!

If the company wants to pay their new pilots more, they're going to have renegotiate the contract,........ which means they are going to have to pay ALL OF US MORE!

Do you think the company would stand by if the pilots adopted the posture that they will no longer come to work unless the top 50 senior pilots were no longer subject to the 12 year pay cap? Of course not. One party to a contract cannot simply decide that they are going to ignore or abrogate an existing contract, (unless the other party ALLOWS it to happen).

Allowing the company to unilaterally abrogate the contract is a step in the wrong direction.

I agree with you. However we do need to attract applicants or the music stops and that benefits no one.

I think if they increased first year FO pay to $35 /hour, and incrementally increased it by $1 /hour to $39 at the 4 year cap, they would attract plenty of applicants. And they should either increase the flow or get rid of the stupid "active CA" metric. No bonuses needed. However you and I both know that AAG isn't going to just increase pay. That will be the absolute last thing they will do. PSA, EVY, and PDT will all be offering bonuses and our NCs likely won't fight it.

PSA needs new pilots MORE than the pilots need new pilots. The proof is in the fact that they're even OFFERING a hiring bonus!

Don't let this opportunity get away from you by saying "well we need 'em too,.......so it's ok that the company is trashing the contract".

Does the bold typing help get your point across?

He said the right direction, not the right step. The company will pay more for labor that is the right direction regardless of how it is applied.
I think is seems pretty obvious that any employee hired to work under the CBA has to be compensated according to the CBA. It does seem pathetic that so many shops have tolerated it for so long.

You do realize that Legacy Eagle already offers a signing bonus and tution reimbursement for people at ATP.

"Legacy Eagle" thanks for the morning comedy!

What's so funny about that?

They are the real eagle


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Does "Legacy Eagle" mean Simmons or Nashville Eagle or Metroflight Airlines or Wings West or Command or Flagship or Executive Airlines?

Legacy Eagle is long gone. Now it's Envoy. Just another dirtbag regional like the rest of them.

What's the hire date of the most junior CLT FO in round 1 for January?

Looks like December 2014

Looks like almost a year to hold a line in CLT. Upgrade times are increasing too. That's not very attractive for new-hires and if PSA can't hire enough pilots, you will be stuck on reserve because no one is coming in below you.

Endeavor is now offering $50,000 minimum first year. PSA is offering $27,000 minimum(with their new 5K bonus). 2016 will be an interesting year.

I agree, unless you happen to live in one of the bases to avoid commuting. Lots of other company's are offering much better pay and quicker upgrade times.

Not quite a year. There are a number of round 2 lines as well. Id say it's more like 8 months to hold a line. 3 months of training, 5 months of reserve (one or two of which may be long call or a build up line) then round 2 line for a few months, then round 1. Seems to be the new norm in CLT.

PSA just got done hiring DECs ... Whith the possibility of it coming back . Who is offering a faster upgrade time ?

With all of the other regionals raising pay and QOL, we will be lucky to get people that want to come here. Management is going to have to spice up things a bit if they want to try and compete! I know if I was brand new I would be looking for the highest pay. Money pays bills and feeds kids, flows don't pay mortgages. I hope they do something to entice people to come here or else we will be downsized as quick as we grew.

All new aag regional owned pi,ots should seriously look at endeavor. Roughly an additional 23k per year for the same job at envoy, pdt, and psa

I am considering it and already work at one. Just got done evaluating what a jfk commute would look like.

When it comes down to it, 99% of us work to pay bills. People always pick what pays the most. Which they should. I can't justify a move to another regional due to my current position with PSA but I honestly can't see any pros into coming to psa. It's a shame. I'm glad endeavor is raising the bar. I wish those options were available to me when I was starting out.

Yep, spend 15 mins looking at your pay stubs and you'll be ready to choke someone. I swear that's why they won't mail them to you. Instead make you create a password to a website you'll never remember.
If ALPA's negotiating department was half as good as their invoicing department we would be some high paid Mfers.
I could just see Delta mgnt swearing on a stack of bibles all they could afford was that garbage Pinnacle BK contract that started this mess, and now they can afford 50k per new hire.

And the flow for a new hire today is going to be at least 10 years. Maybe double.

Isn't that 50k a yr only going to last till 2018? So what's so great about it after 2018? Also, won't that bonus be heavily taxed?