Flying the line at PSA.
 

As an instructor at PSA, I have had many opportunities to talk with line pilots about flying the line at PSA. As a former 20 year Comair pilot, I fully understand life as a regional pilot. If you would like some real prospective of flying the line as a regional pilot let me know. I would be happy to talk to you.

Come on man. You can't be serious with this. This is scummy, slimy, greasy. I can go on.

It was one thing before when it was actually ok here. I hope you can sleep at night.

I have met very few former Comair pilots at PSA that know much about how we fly the line here. I would imagine few sim instructors know about the scummy things that happen here. Even if you "fly the line" every once in awhile, I doubt you see much.

If someone wants to get an accurate account about what happens at PSA, talk to a real PSA line pilot. We will be happy to tell you.

I have given my honest opinions on here time and time again, and have NEVER accepted a referral bonus for doing so.

Popping plenty of popcorn for this one

Wasnt there some guy name joe or something doing this same thing about a year ago? sim instructor.

What does it mean to "Fly the line"?

Is that like one of those airways in the sky?

That's "flying the beam". But yes, basically the same thing.

Sounds like someone is trying to score referral money.

How exactly can you predict the future of PSA?

What a dooooosh bag. You can't be serious. Psa sucks,management and the CP'S there are horrible and look for every way to screw over good people. Go efff yourself

Thank goodness after all these years, someone finally joined these forums to tell everyone what flying for a regional is like.

I'm a new regional pilot waiting with baited breath for the truth.

Yes i have a quick question, you wise regional career pilot you. Can you explain to me why those videos are still posted to PSA facebook touting the quick flow, fastest growing airline, the ability to use SAP to drop down to 65 hours with it never rejecting your ideas, and the laughable notion that PSA is not hiring because they are losing people but because it is growing so much. Everything in that video is a lie and I would love to know why the Nazi style propaganda continues? The young lady in the video should be shunned by the other pilots in the group. What a joke. I await your reply sir.

This has to be a joke lol, funniest thing Iv read all day

We're the food choices in cvg better back in the day. Why are there so many ramp frequencies for a ghost town?

Yeah take advice from the guy that "fully understands life as a regional pilot" but never quite figured out that all regionals are expendablable which is why he spent 20 years at comair instead of moving on to a different airline and as a result ended up at bottom feeding PSoA where he is now baiting new pilots for the referral bonus.

Class act

Over those 20 years, how many were hired at the Majors, LUV, UPS and FedEx and why weren't you among those thousands?

I fully understand the drought from 1992-1998, but after that, you might flesh out some info before you ask the Padawans to frog-hop through Yoda's crib for light sabre practice while you offer some mentoring.

What a piece of you know what. Trying to befriend someone and give someone lies and half truths so you can capitalize on a referral bonus. Most of these previous com air instructors spend your entire sim time telling you how they did it at comair. We don't care how you did it at comair. Comair is gone, dead, does not exist. How life was "back at comair" is not relevant to anything. So **** off with your "real prospective".

PSoA? I think you mean to call it PoSA? I would also accept brown streak or scab over the radios.

Flying the line at PSA.
 

Perspective.

English. Learn it.

Pontificate on some perspective pertaining to your prospective future at PSA.

Alliteration.

Aren't words fun when you use the right ones?

At any rate, I don't care who you want to work for, but anyone who ever tells you that everyone else is full of **** and that the person speaking has the only real scoop is a major warning sign. Diversify your sources.

That is low; you know the hiring has changed since HR took over. Some people didn't want to adapt to their game and were content making 100k per year.

Very true. Very true.

First of all, come up with something new. You must be one of the many people who cannot think for themselves. Secondly, take a moment to look up the definition of scab. You are just another uneducated person that does not know what a scab is. Now return to your mom's basement and pretend to play pilot with your Cessna 172 wall poster.

Yep. And the guy even posted his number for people to call for a reference.

Yes so glad there is a real live PSA Pilot here to answer questions. Definitely a game changer here. Lol

Meanwhile I'm going to raid 1st class for some kettle corn to enjoy the show.

It is a low blow.

I was once a Comair guy, and the shutdown was a blessing for me, because it forced me to be uncomfortable and start over. After starting over, I knew I couldn't be happy at a regional for life, because at the end of the day, my paycheck was being paid by a company that would rather see me on the street than pay my airline 5% more than Gojet.

I was at Comair for over 25 yrs and there are a ton of comair guys and Gal's in training at PSA . Most are cool and have a handle on line flying. You did inherit a few of our tools,unfortunately. I was fortunate to end up at a charter outfit that's home based and pays salary and your efforts are recognized. We even snagged many of our peeps from Gojet, Mesa and PSA. Looking for more in the fall. Elite airways. Look us up! Eliteairways.com

Can you tell us more about Elite? I know of a few (or a few hundred) pilots that are looking to get out of PSA as soon as possible.

If you like the base choices, PSA is good option. No other regional has a TYS, DAY, CVG or CLT base. If you live in or near these cities or want to relate to one of these cities, PSA is a good option. CLT is also an easy commute for all flights within 1.5 hours or less. A good portion of our pilots live in base and are happy with where they're at. There are a lot of unhappy PSA pilots on these boards, but far less than half of the pilots I fly with act unhappy and disgruntled. PM me if you have any questions regarding PSA that you don't feel comfortable asking on the forums.

Congratulations. That was a slightly less sleazy attempt to collect referral bonuses.

I would not refer someone I don't know. I would not attach my name to someone else's that I don't know. I'm simply offering to answer questions via PM for people that are not comfortable asking on the boards do to backlash. I believe PSA is a good option compared to other regionals and would like to see more pilots coming in the door. It's no secret that more pilots coming in the door will benefit my position and everyone else at the company. If all the new hires at Expressjet, Mesa or Air Wisconsin chose PSA instead, I believe they would be much better off. Every other regional depends on where you live. Live in base. If you live close to CLT, TYS, CVG or DAY, come to PSA.

Please tell us why PSA is better than other airlines...

We have a subpar contract that will be in place for more than 7 years We have a management group that violates our contract at will.
We have a flow that is far less than the other wholly owned companies.

There are much better options out there right now. I really liked PSA about 18 months ago, but not now.

Starting Aug 1. Year 1 Captains start at $80000 after fed ride. all new hires are paid $40000 from day one of ground school and after 90 days $50000. Home based and $35/day per diem. We are mostly NCAA charter airline with seasonal service to selected markets and year round to others. We have 7 crj200, 4 crj 700 and more 700/900s on way. [email protected] .we want people who can get the job done with safety and customer service skills and going above and beyond is not the exception. Captain's are given an American express card for company expenses when required.

I get a better schedule every month with line bidding + SAP than I would at any other regional out there with my longevity. The airlines that pay more than PSA and also have 2.5 year upgrades use schedule bidding systems with lower QOL. QOL is just as important as my W2 and I can live with slightly less money at the end of the year if it means better schedule flexibility and overall QOL. The SAP could be a heck of a lot better, but even in it's current state, I still see a huge benefit from it. Others might not, but I make it work every month.

But no one hired today that wants a CLT base will be able to take advantage of the SAP for at least 18 months. I make it work for me, too, but in Charlotte this month, we has FOs that were hired in February of 2015 that were still in round 2. That is 16 months on reserve and the SAP not working at all for them. It will continue to get worse.

Just because PSA worked out for you doesn't mean that it will be a good place for others.

Oh no! FO's are sitting reserve for over a year? What a horrible thing for them!




Do I need to include my sarcasm tag??

I want bigger new hire classes so the FOs I fly with on reserve start holding lines and the more senior line holders upgrade. I want to see things improve for my FOs and an increase of pilots coming in the door benefits everyone. You are complaining about issues that are a direct result of less hiring. If you want PSA to hire less pilots, you are indirectly asking for worse QOL for your fellow FOs. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what we say on these boards to scare people off or invite them over, economic forces will decide the future and that's a great for the labor.

Ah. So you are selling a pyramid scheme. The only good thing that we have is only available to the most senior people. Got it.

I would prefer to see improvements for everyone in the company. Flow at 10% of the company or more per year. Better reserve rules - the the ones that we have actually enforced.

Fix the min day carveouts.
Fix the open time pay.
Fix the critical pay.
Fix the schedules. (4 hour layovers in the middle of the day are the new norm)
Retention bonuses for all employees.

If you pick up open time at the other WO companies, how much are you paid? 200%? 300%? At PSA, it is 125%.

Pwm to MLB yayyyyyy!!!!

It seems that AA isn't quite sure yet, or hasn't revealed their plan for the future of the wholly owned trio. If you can use any of them to advance your career great, if not go somewhere else. Just remember their goal is to use as much up of you as they can.

Clt guy guess what? Nobody cares about your struggles.

Wasn't it a year ago you were boasting about how great things are at PSA. The sjs finally wear off? Realized how bad the PSA contract is? Been beat up on RSV?

Ahh its too bad they voted that crap in, looks like you'll have to deal the crap hand you voted in.

Just to clarify NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 1ST YEAR STRUGGLES.