Express Jet United CPP
 

If this has been already discussed I apologise. My question is what happens if someone is accepted into the CPP and they get furloughed or transitioned out of the United flying? Are you still considered in the CPP or do you lose everything?

Ha ha, questions that ONLY UAL can answer with their vague/gray/one way language that is the CPP

The CPP was opened up to DFW ERJ crews, there was no discrimination. Not like it matters since there will not be any more DFW.

The CRJ side wasn't eligible for the CPP.

And unless you're above a certain seniority in the CURRENT ERJ seniority list, don't expect it to work out. Assuming you get through the abysmal "acceptance" rate.

I'm still in touch with a lot of friends there. The CPP is a bit of a joke.

But hey, it helped keep the sick call rate down last summer....

Just curious. What's the current CPP acceptance rate for those that interview? I seem to remember the Pinnacle/Delta guaranteed interview pass rate wasn't very high initially.

The XJT CPP initially was low, probably for the same reasons the SSP was. Unlike the SSP, it's NOT a guaranteed interview. Just a guaranteed HPI.

But as of a few months ago, it was a tad over 50%. And from what I hear, they're around 50% of the list on HPI send outs.

They don't "accept" A LOT of good people.

Thanks for the info.

Will ExpressJet fly E170/175 or CRJ-700 for UAX?
They have a commitment for a few years with UAL for the CPP right?

XJT has no 170/175s and Skywest isn't gonna give them any...

United is also all scoped out in the 70/76 seat segment.

Expressjet is a DEAD Reginal Airline.

Expressjet will cease to exist first quarter 2018!!!

Did not the agreement get extended to Q1 2019? I can't remember.

Doesn't matter, they will be down to ~ERJ's by this year's end.

I wouldn't hang my hat on the UAL CPP. It's a joke. Go somewhere with a flow agreement instead.

My point exactly. So someone is gonna get the CPP. SkyWest or Mesa. I bet SkyWest. Only problem is...you can't fly for SkyWest and only support United Express operations like you can at ExpressJet.
The way I see it...if I wanna go to United mainline...why would I wanna fly E-Jets for Delta Connection and Alaska Airlines? I want to familiarize myself with United Ops. They should be able to request United...E-Jet...DEN, IAH, etc.

We all (as of now) don't see Mesa making it sadly. But if it is a good company ever...watch out...E-Jet...IAH...UAX only...pilots will come and I'll be one.

I don't understand why CommutAir needs ERJs or the CPP but that's my opinion. I wouldn't wanna go to CommutAir just for ERJs or for the CPP.

Side note...please don't hate on me. I'm flying and getting setup with a college. I'm informing myself. Thank you for everyone that helps make me smarter on these and other topics.

Pilots hired at UAL from the civ/RJ background come from all different Express/Connection paint jobs. UAL doesn't care. Being familiar with a certain carrier's ops MEANS NOTHING.

Commutair is a business, and a business needs to adapt/grow to make money and thrive. Especially in a competitive market place.

1) They were flying planes that UAL isn't interested in keeping around
2) Someone has to provide the 50 lift for CHEAPER than L-XJT can. At least as far as a bean counter/10K/quarterly/line item cost metric is concerned. Take the planes from XJT and give then to TransStates/Commutair.
3) "The fifty seater is dead!!!!!" Battle/rally cry of the ignorant/uniformed. It will ALWAYS have it's place, just not in the numbers of the post 9/11 scope relaxation era. UAL still sees a need for that equipment gage/capability.

The CPP is NOTHING more than a carrot dangled to retain pilots/attract new pilots to a company that sucks and has little to no future and doesn't offer much to a pilot trying to advance their career.

So you're right, don't bother going to a UAX carrier for a CPP program under the current circumstances, it's as mentioned, A JOKE.

Even if the entire bottom half of the XJT seniority list is able to interview and get "accepted" into the program, few if any will probably make it to UAL via the CPP. And just to give you an idea, ~50% on the seniority list at ERJ/XJT is a fall 2006 hire.

As mentioned, ExpressJet (legacy side) never would/will fly anything other than an ERJ. SkyWest holdings Corp has made sure of that.

As mentioned, I don't believe UAL has a plan for L-XJt to exist past Q1 2019 and neither does SKW holdings.

Rumor has it that United went to SkyWest first and offered a flow through/preferential interview and SkyWest turned it down. I don't know if that's true or not, but people mention it and said they heard it straight from CC's mouth.

United wants their regional feed to be staffed. Regionals want their flying to be staffed. Offering jets, growth, and a flow through/CPP/SSP are incentives to bring pilots to the company. The people who choose Commutair have their reasons. It's not one size fits all. I think my regional is great, but for someone else, they may have a better choice.

Also, I enjoy flying for different carriers. I flew for Delta Connection, United Express, and American Eagle all in the same month. I'm now familiar with ops for three different carriers. Honestly, it's not so different that I can't learn the differences. I mean the biggest difference is I have to wear a yellow vest for American during my walk around. Plus, since I'm not at a wholly owned and I don't get the same boarding priority as mainline, having access to multiple travel partners for my non-rev bonus helps give me options to get to where I want to go. I actually view it as a plus to fly for multiple mainline partners.

That is not true.

That would be my guess. Thanks