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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:59 PM
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Hello all -

I'm a little new to the site (really new), but would like some feedback regarding regional companies that offer some type of sponsorship and help you get your licenses?

From what I see, it seems like all what the minimums, but for what flight school seems to cost vs the pay for starting out isn't really looking that good.
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Old 03-22-2017 | 08:03 PM
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Before you get flamed on here, I'd suggest doing a little reading through various threads. Is a lot of info on here. And welcome to the site
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Old 03-22-2017 | 08:26 PM
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No one pays for flight training. Good luck
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Old 03-22-2017 | 10:23 PM
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Welcome to the classic conundrum causing the pilot shortage. You pay $60-80k for flight training, sometimes in addition to college, only to instruct for two years at $1200 a month and then move on to a regional where you get paid a whopping $1700 a month. Not a very good return on investment, is it?

Some regionals have increased first year pay, but it's still nowhere near worth it. People only do it dreaming of landing that sweet Delta job one day, but that job offer might never come. So here we are, with regionals still paying too little and not enough pilots in training to fly their airplanes. Basic supply and demand would suggest pilots will become more valuable as the shortage gets worse, and therefore get paid more, and then the supply will increase when younger people see that it's a lucrative career again. But a lot of airlines think they're somehow exempt from the basic laws of economics. Good luck to them, I guess.
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Old 03-23-2017 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Welcome to the classic conundrum causing the pilot shortage. You pay $60-80k for flight training, sometimes in addition to college, only to instruct for two years at $1200 a month and then move on to a regional where you get paid a whopping $1700 a month. Not a very good return on investment, is it?

Some regionals have increased first year pay, but it's still nowhere near worth it. People only do it dreaming of landing that sweet Delta job one day, but that job offer might never come. So here we are, with regionals still paying too little and not enough pilots in training to fly their airplanes. Basic supply and demand would suggest pilots will become more valuable as the shortage gets worse, and therefore get paid more, and then the supply will increase when younger people see that it's a lucrative career again. But a lot of airlines think they're somehow exempt from the basic laws of economics. Good luck to them, I guess.
$1200 a month? I'm all for hating on the system, but that's a bit of an exaggeration. Unless its self imposed...
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Old 03-23-2017 | 05:32 AM
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$1200 a month? I'm all for hating on the system, but that's a bit of an exaggeration. Unless its self imposed...
After paying for a crashpad and other costs of living in JFK, DCA, LGA, or ATL, that's about what you'll take home on min guarantee. I don't think he's that far off the mark.

The regional model is unsustainable long term. The sooner it goes away, the better.
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Old 03-23-2017 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bravix
$1200 a month? I'm all for hating on the system, but that's a bit of an exaggeration. Unless its self imposed...
That is what I was making as a CFI, and I knew that several buddies of mine were making similar at other flight schools. Thankfully those scumbag operations are all hurting for lack of CFI applicants, thus they have either raised their compensation or gone out of business.
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Old 03-23-2017 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Welcome to the classic conundrum causing the pilot shortage. You pay $60-80k for flight training, sometimes in addition to college, only to instruct for two years at $1200 a month and then move on to a regional where you get paid a whopping $1700 a month. Not a very good return on investment, is it?

Some regionals have increased first year pay, but it's still nowhere near worth it. People only do it dreaming of landing that sweet Delta job one day, but that job offer might never come. So here we are, with regionals still paying too little and not enough pilots in training to fly their airplanes. Basic supply and demand would suggest pilots will become more valuable as the shortage gets worse, and therefore get paid more, and then the supply will increase when younger people see that it's a lucrative career again. But a lot of airlines think they're somehow exempt from the basic laws of economics. Good luck to them, I guess.
The only regionals that need to hire foreign nationals are the ones that pay crap money, I'll give you that. The ones that have reasonable pay are having no problem staffing their classes.
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Old 03-23-2017 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
That is what I was making as a CFI, and I knew that several buddies of mine were making similar at other flight schools. Thankfully those scumbag operations are all hurting for lack of CFI applicants, thus they have either raised their compensation or gone out of business.
1200 a month while being a cfi is very realistic when you live in a rural area with few students or no schooling program associated with it. The few students you have are often unmotivated by a prospective flying career like they are at big schools.
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Old 03-23-2017 | 08:36 AM
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Where are you guys working that you get $1200 a month? Unless you're in a college or somewhere that has terrible weather...that is not something you should expect to make as a CFI.

Go down to AZ and make $50k + instructing. Shoot I worked at TransPac and we made 28k and I thought that was low.

$14k a year isn't even a job, you must be logging like 200-300 hrs a year.........
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