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word302 04-01-2017 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by BrianATL (Post 2334541)
This has become very common now for some reason. A person has a salary or hourly like I do, but I'm supposed to tip them for doing what they're already paid to do? Now I understand waiters, etc, because they only make like 2 and 3 bucks an hour that's intended to be supplemented by tips. But I have to agree somewhat with you on this subject.

Actually servers make minimum wage before tips, which is likely close to what your van driver is getting.

ps2sunvalley 04-01-2017 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2334553)
Actually servers make minimum wage before tips, which is likely close to what your van driver is getting.



No they do not, but let's not argue that here.

For me I made an app from AppSheet which feeds a form submission into a google sheet which then I can manipulate the data for my viewing pleasure. Makes it easy to log the time on the road with my phone.


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HighFlight 04-01-2017 06:57 PM

Your fingers don't breathe, they simply type. But if you are desiring to convince me to tip people who earn a living wage, then yes, it would be a waste of your time. If you are willing to part with your money and give it away to others, then so be it. I prefer to keep the money I earn. Wait staff being the exception, as mentioned above.

You are probably one of those people who errantly think they can tip and "get their money back" by claiming it on their taxes.


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2334547)
It would obviously be a waste of my breath to try and explain it to you.


HighFlight 04-01-2017 07:00 PM

So do the other people I mentioned before, yet you failed to admit that you don't tip them. Why tip a van driver, but not a Walmart employee? Or your grocery stocker? Why be so choosy?


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2334553)
Actually servers make minimum wage before tips, which is likely close to what your van driver is getting.


Poser765 04-01-2017 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2334573)
Your fingers don't breathe, they simply type. But if you are desiring to convince me to tip people who earn a living wage, then yes, it would be a waste of your time. If you are willing to part with your money and give it away to others, then so be it. I prefer to keep the money I earn. Wait staff being the exception, as mentioned above.

You are probably one of those people who errantly think they can tip and "get their money back" by claiming it on their taxes.

dude don't even bother. If someone thinks I'm less of a person because I refuse to engage in ridiculous social construct I really don't care. That's a person who's opinion is meaningless to me.

No Lies 04-01-2017 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by MustangMan (Post 2334520)
Been using LogTen Pro X for a few years now and love it. Yes it's expensive but imo worth it. Real easy to use, syncs to a second device, and backs up to the cloud. Usually just log leg by leg as I go. Of course only works with Apple products. Read a while back they have no intent of creating a pc version.

MCC syncs up to 10 devices. Has a phone app for almost all phones. Downloads all your trip info leg by leg. You will have to enter approaches, actual time and landings since it is unable to figure those out, but everything else is downloaded from the airline company server. It backs up to the cloud also.

And it is a one time fee that is not that expensive. I think its around $70 depending on the currency exchange rate.

FlightDirector 04-01-2017 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2334580)
MCC syncs up to 10 devices. Has a phone app for almost all phones. Downloads all your trip info leg by leg. You will have to enter approaches, actual time and landings since it is unable to figure those out, but everything else is downloaded from the airline company server. It backs up to the cloud also.

And it is a one time fee that is not that expensive. I think its around $70 depending on the currency exchange rate.

The more I hear about Mcc, the more it sounds like it's the way to go.

No Lies 04-02-2017 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by FlightDirector (Post 2334601)
The more I hear about Mcc, the more it sounds like it's the way to go.

What are you trying to get MCC to do that you can't get figured out?

FlightDirector 04-02-2017 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2334727)
What are you trying to get MCC to do that you can't get figured out?

I briefly played with it when I originally downloaded it. After spending a bit more time with it I think I have it figured out for the most part. Granted it's the only digital logbook I've messed with but it's pretty slick.

BravoPapa 04-02-2017 08:34 AM

How important is a digital logbook now? Do employers prefer it? When you interview, do you normally take in your physical one and send them a digital copy, or do you even need your physical one any more at all?


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