Once upon a time, I made minimum wage. And it sucked. No one paid me any tips. The only too I got was "Go to college and get a better job."

Seemed like sound advice, so I heeded it.

If tipping makes you feel better about yourself, then do it. Good on you. But don't put down others who choose not to. Fair enough?

So what you are really saying is the guys that work for Mesa should be getting tips and the rest of us shouldn't be getting them?

I still keep both a paper and digital logbook. While it's not a deal breaker either way it seems now days employers prefer a digital logbook. Not only is it a super clean format but a digital logbook pretty much eliminates any chance for mathematical errors. A good digital logbook has built in rules that ensure you're logging your time correctly. Granted with diligence it's nothing you can't do in a paper logbook. I hear stories from HR about guys coming in for an interview and the columns in their book have disparities of 50 hours or more and flights are incorrectly logged. Definitely a red flag to a future employer that you're detail oriented.
The other advantage with a digital log is as you are setting out to get a job you can simply email the prospective employer your logbook, they can easily review your flight records in an easy to read format giving you an air of professionalism before you ever show up in person.

When I was flying corporate we used Garmin Pilot for flight planning, filing and navigation. It has a built in logbook that was really slick. since it is being used for navigation it already has your position information; it would automatically log the departure & destination, time off and on the ground, calculate total flight time, auto calculate X-country time and night time based off time of day, it would even keep track of day/night landing & takeoffs. At the end of the flight all I had to do was enter the N-number, put in actual IMC time, # of holds and what approaches I shot. It worked amazingly well. I would let the app log the flights and then copy them to my paper log every couple of weeks or so.

I recently got on with the airlines and unfortunately the Garmin app just wasn't designed for 121 ops. I did some research on digital logbook programs and finally settled on Mcc PilotLog. It isn't as slick as the Garmin app was but it allows me to log flight numbers, pairing codes and is able to download my schedule and completed flights right from my company roster (FLICA). I'm still learning how to fully use all of the features but it seems like the best option considereing functionality vs price point.

A little help with mcc if anyonehas had a similar issue....my logbook won't show a location for where simulator device training was conducted. According to 61.51biii location is required.

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Can't you just add it to the remarks section?

Yes, which is what I did. Just can't understand why they wouldn't leave the to-from blocks available (just to be able to comply with the requirements.)

Also, for you military guys....If you have the enterprise edition of mcc, it will let you have a "second logbook."

By that, you go in and select all the aircraft you want to be associated with 1 logbook vs another. For me, that means one day if I get the regional job and then go in for a major interview, I'll have two logbooks I present. A military rw and civil/commercial fw.

I just like the idea of being able to keep all those numbers separated, but presentable in a coherent manner.

Anyone else have problems manually entering flights into APDL?

Seems really great with automatically populating OOOI times and all, but absolutely useless for trying to log pre-121 time. Or older 121 time, for that matter. A flight number for my old 172 flights? Come on now.

Did I get roped into buying an app that's useless for going totally digital, or am I just missing something

How do you like APDL? Does anyone else have experience with APDL? I was thinking about using the trial a little bit when I hit the line this summer? I already use Logbook Pro.

APDL isn’t meant for 172 flying. My advice is to either manually add previous time directly into Logbook Pro, or if you must be able to input time on a mobile device, I would buy a month of LBP Mobile and input into that app and then sync to LBP.

APDL is meant for Airline Pilots, that’s why it doesn’t exactly fit for 172 Flying. Just like many logbooks don’t fit for airline flying.
APDL tracks not just your flight times, but your 117 duty limits, your payroll and per diem. The app lets you look up gates, weather, and EDCT’s with one click from within the app. It even does commuter flight lookup for the commuters among us.
It imports your schedules from most popular scheduling systems, and auto updated OOOI times as you go. It has hotel lookup, and van time alert/alarm. Crew names and a spot for notes.
Is it perfect; no.... but for an airline pilot it’s the best out there currently.


If you just want to log time - in any plane - and still be able to import schedules to the app - then LogBookPro mobile and desktop are for you. LBP can print PDFs and makes a great electronic PDF logbook.... or take it to Fedex office and print it out for interviews.