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Past V1 03-02-2007 08:07 AM

Shopping for Regional Work
 
I hope that I don't get bashed on this post but I have to ask. I am looking to move on to regional work here in the near future and I am getting a headache look at all of there income statements and RFP winnings and to say it quite frankly its frustrating. Now I have been push a King Air 200 around for sometime now and honestly looking for turbojet action...just for something different in my life. My major concerns are job security and QQL...I was looking at XJT for awhile but now they make me nervous because of there new ventures, Pinnacle's hiring guys with 280TT and a spit full of ME which tells me what kind of company they are and purchasing Colgan for next to nothing, ASA is closing their base in LAX (AHHHHHH!!!!!). Does anyone have any recommendations on where to go? Or how to make a good decision in this process?:confused: :confused: :confused: Also, is it true that fast upgrade times are generally a bad indication of an airline not doing so well? I appreciate good comments and open discussion.

POPA 03-02-2007 08:18 AM

I'll trade you my jet job for your Be20 job.

Past V1 03-02-2007 08:21 AM

Why would you say that POPA...who do you work for if you don't me asking?

POPA 03-02-2007 08:25 AM

I work for Trans Mistakes, and I would trade you jobs because I like flying the King Air.

Past V1 03-02-2007 08:32 AM

Trust me I love my King Air...but I have to move (family wife's a doctor) so I am looking for new work...I don't care about the commute (just yet) but I do care about QQL and job security...well from the sounds of your recent post Transtates is not the place to go...still looking for more input.

POPA 03-02-2007 08:55 AM

For somebody with my time, TSA's a great place to be right now. With your time, however, you're better off looking at SKW to scratch that jet itch.

Led Zep 03-02-2007 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 127202)
Trust me I love my King Air...but I have to move (family wife's a doctor) so I am looking for new work...I don't care about the commute (just yet) but I do care about QQL and job security...well from the sounds of your recent post Transtates is not the place to go...still looking for more input.

Have you considered applying to a fractional?

Past V1 03-02-2007 09:10 AM

Yeah but where my wife and I plan on moving there is no base from a fractional so my only option is a regional...by the way moving to MSP

DMEarc 03-02-2007 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 127221)
Yeah but where my wife and I plan on moving there is no base from a fractional so my only option is a regional...by the way moving to MSP

You know, just because Pinnacle is hiring 280 hour guys, doesn't mean they're a bad company or that they're any less of a company than Skywest.

Mesaba has a MSP base.

Pinnacle is a good company. And if your wife is a doctor, what more do you need?

Baronpilot 03-02-2007 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 127222)
You know, just because Pinnacle is hiring 280 hour guys, doesn't mean they're a bad company or that they're any less of a company than Skywest.

Mesaba has a MSP base.

Pinnacle is a good company. And if your wife is a doctor, what more do you need?

Is this hiring through a bridge program or are these the actual minimums?

Past V1 03-02-2007 09:24 AM

Granted...now here is the scenario...do you think that the recent purchase of Mesaba the Pinnacle will get phased out...like CA did to XJT. Mesaba are supposed to get 36 CRJ-900 and with the recent red ink that NWA is doing I think that they might subsitutue Pinnacles routes to save money. That's why Pinnacle purchased Colgan to hide the fact that they will be losing money from NWA contracts. I could be wrong though. But I did look at both of those companies and hard. They are options.

DMEarc 03-02-2007 09:26 AM

It's pretty safe to say there is no such thing as job security in the airlines.

Pinnacle just renewed their contract with NWA through like 201X...They'll be there for a while.

EDITED- Agreement makes Pinnacle a long term partner through 2017.

Source: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....472&highlight=

Flatspin7 03-02-2007 09:31 AM

Hell if you have a sugar momma and you live in MSP its really a no brainer. Pinnacle might not be in the top 2 or 3 companies money wise out there but living at home is worth its weight in Gold... I would gladly take a buck or 2 less an hour for the priveledge of driving home after work. I do it backwards I work for CAL and I live in Jersey hence the automatic pay cut.

Mesaba should also be hiring too pretty soon.
Good Luck

Past V1 03-02-2007 09:48 AM

Well I would call her a sugar momma (thats funny though) I appreciate the good comments though...Pinnacle does sound good and from what I hear the commute things is horrible...but then again I hear MSP is a senior base...ahh well...It seems that I can't win...thanks though...you guys just confirmed what I was thinking already...off to Penny!!!

bintynogin 03-02-2007 09:51 AM

Horizon is calling

nwa757 03-02-2007 11:05 AM

I would go to SKYW and commute to ORD. That's an easy 1 hr commute on NWA/UAL.

C152driver 03-02-2007 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Baronpilot (Post 127223)
Is this hiring through a bridge program or are these the actual minimums?

I am on the outside, trying to get in so do with this what you will. But, I hear that Pinnacle is still trying to get pilots that meet their 1000/100 published minimums. However, since that has been a struggle lately, they have "soft minimums" that extend somewhat lower, with the approval of the chief pilot. The 250-400 hour guys/gals are from the bridge programs, I think.

I am a new CFI with 700/85 and and a friend who is an FO and is willing to walk my resume in. However, he has also told me that I could just submit my stuff to them blind and likely get a call.

nobrusk 03-05-2007 10:04 AM

if you are relocating to MSP, perhaps you should look into Compass...

AbZorbFly 03-06-2007 05:17 AM

SKW blah

republic is the place

Airsupport 03-06-2007 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 127238)
Well I would call her a sugar momma (thats funny though) I appreciate the good comments though...Pinnacle does sound good and from what I hear the commute things is horrible...but then again I hear MSP is a senior base...ahh well...It seems that I can't win...thanks though...you guys just confirmed what I was thinking already...off to Penny!!!

MSP is a fairly senior base. But you will have it very soon after training. A guy just did a fam flight on one of my turns and he will be based in dtw till the end of april, and then he got msp in may. so he will only have to wait 2 months to get there, and he is a new hire.


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