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DENpilot 05-01-2017 08:12 AM

SkyWest smoke in cabin
 
Just curious... is it SOP at Skywest to taxi around, wasting valuable minutes after landing, while you have indications of a fire inside your aircraft?:rolleyes:

Plane from O?Hare makes emergency landing at DuPage County Airport | WGN-TV

reandld 05-01-2017 11:33 AM

Why do people feel the need to pull out their phones and start recording everything?

awax 05-01-2017 11:44 AM

Too bad you weren't on the jumpseat so you could get 'em squared away. :rolleyes:
Monday morning quarterback much?
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...-jumpseat.html

Sqwk7700 05-01-2017 12:04 PM

Seriously, why do you feel the need to judge if you weren't there? Good job to the crew for getting it on the ground and getting people out safely.

trip 05-01-2017 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by denpilot (Post 2354715)
just curious... Is it sop at skywest to taxi around, wasting valuable minutes after landing, while you have indications of a fire inside your aircraft?:rolleyes:

plane from o?hare makes emergency landing at dupage county airport | wgn-tv

ftotd

>>>>

Glad2fly 05-01-2017 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2354715)
Just curious... is it SOP at Skywest to taxi around, wasting valuable minutes after landing, while you have indications of a fire inside your aircraft?:rolleyes:

Plane from O?Hare makes emergency landing at DuPage County Airport | WGN-TV

They didn't "taxi around" wasting time after safely landing and the crew did a great job. You should go back and watch the video YOU posted before making an idiotic comment about a situation you had no part of.
Troll on in another thread.

DENpilot 05-01-2017 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Sqwk7700 (Post 2354930)
Seriously, why do you feel the need to judge if you weren't there? Good job to the crew for getting it on the ground and getting people out safely.

Tell me what scenario exists out there, to taxi to the ramp area to evacuate the aircraft. Seconds count when there is a fire on board. It is not judging, it is common sense.

DENpilot 05-01-2017 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Glad2fly (Post 2354960)
They didn't "taxi around" wasting time after safely landing and the crew did a great job. You should go back and watch the video YOU posted before making an idiotic comment about a situation you had no part of.
Troll on in another thread.

I did watch the video, and it is clear they are not on the runway evacuating, they are on the ramp area. :rolleyes:

Whiplash6 05-01-2017 12:54 PM

I hate pilots

CBreezy 05-01-2017 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2354962)
Tell me what scenario exists out there, to taxi to the ramp area to evacuate the aircraft. Seconds count when there is a fire on board. It is not judging, it is common sense.

Smoke in the cabin isn't an indication of an active fire aboard the aircraft. With the light smoke as seen in the video, it is far safer to take two mins to taxi to the gate than deplane on the runway.

DENpilot 05-01-2017 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2354977)
Smoke in the cabin isn't an indication of an active fire aboard the aircraft. With the light smoke as seen in the video, it is far safer to take two mins to taxi to the gate than deplane on the runway.

Ah, and how would one know that?

Also they didn't go to a gate. They went to the ramp area. Not sure why evacuation on a closed runway would be any less safe.

Ever heard of Air Canada 797? That crew didn't think the smoke was a big deal either and delayed evacuation by 90 seconds.

Swiss 111?

Shall I go on?

Broncofan 05-01-2017 02:51 PM

"One woman called her husband, and well he didn't answer but uhhh""

Anyone else literally lol at that part? First class reporting 😂

word302 05-01-2017 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2355070)
Ah, and how would one know that?

Also they didn't go to a gate. They went to the ramp area. Not sure why evacuation on a closed runway would be any less safe.

Ever heard of Air Canada 797? That crew didn't think the smoke was a big deal either and delayed evacuation by 90 seconds.

Swiss 111?

Shall I go on?

Oh, you must have been there. SMH.

Student01 05-01-2017 03:42 PM

Is it a CRJ-200?

rickair7777 05-01-2017 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Glad2fly (Post 2354960)
They didn't "taxi around" wasting time after safely landing and the crew did a great job. You should go back and watch the video YOU posted before making an idiotic comment about a situation you had no part of.
Troll on in another thread.


DENpilot has a long and established history of offensive behavior. Don't take it personally.

CBreezy 05-01-2017 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2355070)
Ah, and how would one know that?

Also they didn't go to a gate. They went to the ramp area. Not sure why evacuation on a closed runway would be any less safe.

Ever heard of Air Canada 797? That crew didn't think the smoke was a big deal either and delayed evacuation by 90 seconds.

Swiss 111?

Shall I go on?

Please. Your knowledge of history is poor at best.

The crew asked the tower if smoke or flames were visible from the tower. No. The smoke in the cabin was light at worst. It was not increasing or billowing. There were most likely no firebells. So, instead of evacuating on an active taxiway or runway, they took a minute or two to taxi to a ramp. Good job.

Most likely a malfunctioning PACK and isolated by the QRH. Great job by the crew.

SMACFUM 05-01-2017 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2354962)
Tell me what scenario exists out there, to taxi to the ramp area to evacuate the aircraft. Seconds count when there is a fire on board. It is not judging, it is common sense.

You're a moron.

1) There was never a fire on board, it was oil that leaked into one of the PACKs.

2) SkyWest SOP is to stop and evaluate the situation before acting rashly, like dumping 50+ people out onto an active runway/taxiway without first assessing the situation.

3) After the crew evaluated the source of the smoke, and deemed the likelihood of an active fire onboard to be remote, they opted to orderly deplane the pax. There was never an evacuation, because there was no need for one. An evacuation would entail all 4 exits, including the overwing exits, and galley service door.

prex8390 05-01-2017 05:31 PM

I Remember watching a movie in ground school about a I believe delta or northwest crew in Seattle or something that evaced a 767 after the ARFF crew told them not to and several people got hurt because of it. It's called CRM, probably were told by the trained professionals that they didn't see a immediate threat.

DirkDiggler 05-01-2017 05:34 PM

Most likely just a major fume event. Read up on it. People have died over those oil fumes. Aerotoxic.org

tcco94 05-01-2017 06:53 PM

We should all be happy an attitude like yours isn't in the FFDO program. Carry on. Stop feeding the troll.

John Carr 05-01-2017 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2355112)
DENpilot has a long and established history of offensive behavior. Don't take it personally.

Not exactly popular at a previous or current employer either.

"Have you ever been asked to resign?"

RemoveB4Flight 05-01-2017 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2354715)
Just curious... is it SOP at Skywest to taxi around, wasting valuable minutes after landing, while you have indications of a fire inside your aircraft?:rolleyes:

Plane from O?Hare makes emergency landing at DuPage County Airport | WGN-TV

There's always one, isn't there?

TheFly 05-02-2017 05:02 AM

Great job getting everyone to safety...that's what matters.

SilverBull 05-02-2017 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 2355150)
You're a moron.

1) There was never a fire on board, it was oil that leaked into one of the PACKs.

2) SkyWest SOP is to stop and evaluate the situation before acting rashly, like dumping 50+ people out onto an active runway/taxiway without first assessing the situation.

3) After the crew evaluated the source of the smoke, and deemed the likelihood of an active fire onboard to be remote, they opted to orderly deplane the pax. There was never an evacuation, because there was no need for one. An evacuation would entail all 4 exits, including the overwing exits, and galley service door.

Active runway/taxiway?? Last time I checked when someone "declares" an emergency, they shut that piece of pavement down until the all clear has been given for the situation. But this cat must be one of those know it all pilots

CBreezy 05-02-2017 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by SilverBull (Post 2355446)
Active runway/taxiway?? Last time I checked when someone "declares" an emergency, they shut that piece of pavement down until the all clear has been given for the situation. But this cat must be one of those know it all pilots

It is never a good idea to unnecessarily evacuate an aircraft outside of ramp areas, whether or not the runway or taxiway is shut down. You are correct, they will shut down and isolate a runway or taxiway when an emergency aircraft lands on it, but unless your airport only has one of both of those, it will continue to operate on the other runways. Once the paranoid passengers start the evacuation, many will just start running away to get as far away as possible. There is no one out there to direct them and many, confused, will just start heading toward the nearest buildings. Now you have people scattered across the airport trying to get to the nearest building. It is FAR more dangerous than a ramp area.

trip 05-02-2017 11:29 AM

Handled like true professionals.

Incident: Skywest CRJ2 at Chicago on May 1st 2017, cargo smoke, smoke in cockpit and cabin

Incident: Skywest CRJ2 at Chicago on May 1st 2017, cargo smoke, smoke in cockpit and cabin

By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, May 1st 2017 21:45Z, last updated Tuesday, May 2nd 2017 14:54Z
A Skywest Canadair CRJ-200 on behalf of American Airlines, registration N866AS performing flight OO-2936/AA-2936 from Chicago O'Hare,IL to Cedar Rapids,IA (USA) with 51 passengers and 3 crew, was climbing out of Chicago when the crew donned their oxygen masks, stopped the climb at 6000 feet reporting cargo smoke and diverted to Chicago DuPage Airport for a safe landing about 10 minutes after departure. The crew requested to turn into the wind after landing, then advised they had been discharging fire agent into the cargo bay and requested fire services to inspect the cargo bay. Following emergency services reporting not seeing any smoke the aircraft continued to the terminal, passengers disembarked normally via stairs. Fire Fighters subsequently reported they could smell smoke.

Passengers reported almost immediately after becoming airborne haze occurred in the cabin, the flight attendant initially attempted to calm them down advising this was only mist, however there was also a clear smell of smoke. Shortly thereafter the passengers noticed the aircraft was maneouvering to land.

The FAA reported the aircraft diverted to DuPage Airport reporting smoke in the cockpit.

The remainder of the flight was cancelled.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...330Z/KORD/KCID


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